When the world stopped in March 2020, Emily Guerra’s career stopped with it. As a wedding and event planner in Los Angeles, she watched her industry vanish overnight. Weddings were canceled, events disappeared, and the work that had consumed most of her days, evenings, and weekends simply ceased to exist. For someone who thrived on organization and structure, the sudden absence of both felt disorienting. But what seemed like a devastating loss would ultimately force Guerra to reimagine not just what she did for work, but how she approached work itself. Her journey from event planning to mindful productivity coaching reveals how crisis can strip away the elements of our careers that no longer serve us and create space for something more aligned with who we actually are.
Guerra’s story isn’t unique in its beginning. Countless professionals found themselves unemployed or underemployed during the pandemic. What makes her experience particularly instructive is how she navigated the emotional turbulence of losing a career she loved while simultaneously discovering that the lifestyle attached to that career was exhausting her. The pandemic didn’t just change what she did for work. It fundamentally altered her understanding of what work should look like in her life.
When Your Calling Disappears Overnight
Guerra had been planning for her future in the events industry since childhood. She traces her interest back to watching Say Yes to the Dress as a little kid, captivated by the transformation of dreams into reality. Throughout high school and college in Los Angeles, she pursued internships with various event companies, initially exploring corporate events before discovering her passion for personal celebrations. “I realized I love being a little bit more creative and tending to an individual,” Guerra said. “That’s when I kind of transitioned into more personal events like birthday parties and fun celebrations and weddings.”
The work suited her in unexpected ways. Despite having ADHD, a condition that typically makes detail oriented work challenging, Guerra discovered that organization became her coping mechanism. “I learned through therapy that organization was actually kind of like my ADHD medication,” she said. The structured nature of event planning, with its templates, workflows, and precise timelines, provided exactly the framework she needed to thrive. “I loved creating workflows, I loved having templates. I love knowing exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it,” she explained. “With every event planner, there is always a system, always a structure.”
But when COVID lockdowns began, Guerra was still a senior in college. The industry didn’t just slow down. It stopped completely. Jobs she had lined up disappeared. Plans to move into an apartment with a friend fell through. Moving back home with her parents wasn’t an option, so she turned to her older brother for temporary housing. The emotional impact went beyond losing employment. “I felt a lot of anger and resentment honestly because my senior year of college, that’s something that you kind of dream about since you’re like in high school,” Guerra said. “My graduation was canceled. All of those milestones were canceled.”
The Sulking Period and the Decision to Act
Guerra describes the initial months of the pandemic as her sulking period. She waited, hoping the events industry would bounce back quickly. She maintained connections with college friends and her sorority, even as she dealt with FOMO watching others remain in Los Angeles while she lived elsewhere. Therapy helped her process the disappointment of expectations not matching reality.
But eventually, waiting became unbearable. “One day I kind of just like slapped myself in the face and I was like, okay, I need to do something here and I need to stop sulking about the fact that I’m not getting hired,” Guerra said. She decided to get certified in social media management, leveraging skills she had developed creating content for events. Within a few months, she was reaching out to small businesses offering her services.
The response surprised her. “It was insane,” she said. “I was so busy. Like I had so many clients. I was getting so many referrals from other clients. People were finding me. It was honestly amazing.” The success came partly from necessity. Small businesses were desperate for help establishing online presences during lockdowns. But it also came from Guerra’s ability to transfer her organizational skills to a new context. The same systems thinking that made her effective at event planning proved valuable for managing social media strategies.
Looking back, Guerra recognizes entrepreneurship was always part of her identity. Her grandfather owned a flower shop. Her uncle owned a restaurant. Starting a business felt natural, even if the circumstances forcing her into it didn’t. “It wasn’t until I looked back that I’m like, wait, this is actually like totally aligned with my family,” she said. The pandemic removed the option of playing it safe with traditional employment and pushed her toward a path she might not have chosen otherwise.
From Social Media to Systems Thinking
As Guerra’s freelance social media business grew, she noticed a pattern in client needs. They didn’t just want content management. They wanted help with organization, workflows, and productivity. Many were solopreneurs struggling to manage multiple aspects of their businesses. Others were navigating the new reality of remote work without any roadmap for how to structure their days.
Guerra realized she was uniquely positioned to help. Her event planning background had taught her how to create systems and processes. Her experience managing ADHD had taught her how to work with her brain rather than against it. And her own journey through career disruption had taught her the importance of balance and sustainability. She began incorporating productivity coaching into her services, eventually pivoting entirely away from social media management.
“I specialize in solopreneurs, people who work from home, hybrid workers, remote workers, and I really help them improve their productivity while being very balanced and being sustainable,” Guerra explained. The coaching focuses on what she calls mindful productivity, an approach that considers both practical workflow strategies and the neuroscience of how people actually work best.
What sets her approach apart is its acknowledgment of how dramatically work has changed. “So much of the productivity advice that is out there was created literally in like the 1980s and the 1990s,” Guerra said. “It truly does not take into account our new lifestyle, that remote lifestyle, and the way that the brain works.” Traditional productivity advice assumed geographic boundaries between work and personal life. It assumed structured office environments with clear transitions. Most people no longer have those conditions.
Guerra’s coaching addresses the reality of working from home where the laptop is always within reach and the boundary between professional and personal time requires conscious creation. “How can we work with ourselves, not against ourselves?” she asks. “Ninety nine percent of the productivity advice out there forces you to work against yourself.”
The Unexpected Gift of Forced Slowdown
Eventually, as the events industry began recovering, Guerra moved back to Los Angeles and briefly returned to wedding planning. She quickly realized something important: she didn’t want to go back to that lifestyle. “The thing is I did a couple of weddings when I moved back to LA and I realized that I didn’t love it as much as I thought I did,” she said. “I realized that the actual job of being an event planner or a wedding planner, I loved it. Executing events, I loved it. But the lifestyle of it was really difficult for me.”
The job had demanded constant availability. Weekends disappeared into events. Evenings were consumed by client communications. The pandemic, for all its difficulties, had shown Guerra what life could feel like with more control over her schedule and more space for personal priorities. She had developed a ritual of transitioning from work to personal time by cooking dinner, something that would have been impossible during her event planning years. That simple practice of mindfulness and presence had become precious to her.
This realization represents perhaps the most significant insight from Guerra’s career pivot. The pandemic didn’t just change her profession. It changed her understanding of what she wanted work to look like in her life. Many people discovered similar truths during lockdowns when forced to reconsider which aspects of their pre pandemic lives they actually wanted to reclaim. For Guerra, the discovery was that the career she had been building since childhood came with a lifestyle that ultimately didn’t serve her wellbeing.
Creating Structure for the Remote Era
Guerra’s current work as a mindful productivity coach represents a synthesis of everything she learned through disruption. She helps clients create the kinds of systems and structures she developed for herself, customized to their specific circumstances and neurological makeup. Her approach acknowledges that productivity advice needs updating for the remote work era where traditional boundaries no longer exist and new strategies are required.
The transition wasn’t something she planned. She didn’t wake up one morning deciding to become a productivity coach. Instead, crisis removed the path she was on and forced her to find a new one. In doing so, she discovered work that better aligned with her values around balance and sustainability while still leveraging her strengths in organization and systems thinking. The event planning skills translated into helping others create structured workflows. The ADHD management strategies became tools for teaching clients how to work with their own brains.
“Nobody taught you how to do it,” Guerra said of the shift to remote and hybrid work. “Nobody would have known how to do it.” Her coaching fills that gap by combining practical organizational strategies with an understanding of neuroscience and a commitment to sustainable work practices. She helps clients figure out how to improve their schedules, manage their workloads, prioritize effectively, and develop time management skills that enable them to be both balanced and productive.
Guerra’s journey illustrates how career pivots forced by crisis can lead to unexpected alignment between work and personal values. She didn’t choose to leave event planning. The pandemic made that choice for her. But in being forced to adapt, she discovered a career that offers more control over her time, better work life balance, and the ability to help others navigate similar challenges. The loss of one path cleared space for another that she might never have explored otherwise.
Her story also demonstrates the value of the systems thinking she learned in event planning. Those organizational skills proved transferable across multiple career pivots, from events to social media to productivity coaching. The ability to create workflows, develop processes, and maintain structure served her regardless of the specific work she was doing. In many ways, her real expertise was never about weddings or social media. It was about helping people create order from chaos, whether that chaos involved managing a complex event or figuring out how to work effectively from home.
Today, Guerra runs The Productivity Flow, offering one on one coaching and a free community for people seeking to improve their productivity while maintaining balance. She continues researching neuroscience and the psychology of work, staying current on how people can best structure their days in the remote work era. The career she has now looks nothing like the one she imagined as a kid watching Say Yes to the Dress. But it offers something the event planning lifestyle never could: the space to be present in her own life while helping others find the same balance.
This article was inspired by an interview with Emily Guerra and Amy Stone on The Art of Imperfect Adulting podcast. https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/listen https://www.youtube.com/@imperfectadulting To hear more compelling conversations like this one and receive special offers from our guests directly to your inbox, join our email community today.
Career Change Interview Transcript: Amy Stone with Emily Guerra | The Art of Imperfect Adulting | December 2025
Amy Stone [00:00:04]:
Emily Guerra, welcome to the art of imperfect adulting. I’m happy you’re here. Are you ready for a fun chat?
Emily Guerra [00:00:10]:
I am so ready for a fun chat. Thank you so much for having me. Super excited to be here.
Amy Stone [00:00:15]:
Yay. I start all my conversations with the exact same question and that is what part of the world do you call home?
Emily Guerra [00:00:23]:
Los Angeles, California. I’ve been born and raised here. One of the very few like non transplant people here in Los Angeles.
Amy Stone [00:00:32]:
You are an Angelina. So one of my favorite cities and has a lot very similar vibe in many very different but very similar vibe to some of the things I’m in Miami. So it’s very comfortable. But people do make jokes about people going back and forth from Southern California to like Southern South Florida and how the reaction is like on the beach and you know, the temperature of the water. It’s all deserving, it’s all deserved. I watched the videos, the little caricatures of Miami girls showing up in California. Like woo, the water is cold and where is the sun? And it’s spot on. It’s spot on.
Emily Guerra [00:01:08]:
It really is. It can be a little jarring.
Amy Stone [00:01:10]:
Yeah, no, the water is cold. The water is cold. All right, so next question. What is your personal favorite way or a good way that you like to transition from being busy, being occupied and then into downtime?
Emily Guerra [00:01:24]:
Yeah. So I naturally just think of like how I end my work days.
Speaker C [00:01:29]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:01:29]:
And how I transition out of work into kind of personal mode is what I like to call it. And something that you know, I just always do half because I have to do it. But I really started to enjoy it is cooking actually.
Speaker C [00:01:44]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:01:44]:
Like getting into that, getting mindful with it, getting creative with it, having fun with it has just become kind of this like post work ritual for me that really allows me to let go of the day and be present. So that’s been my new thing lately.
Amy Stone [00:02:00]:
I love that. So are you doing cooking from scratch or are you working with like a meal kit service or are you doing tic tac recipes? What’s your, what’s your cooking? What’s your cooking spot right now in your life? Yeah.
Emily Guerra [00:02:13]:
Well, I love that you said right now because you’re right. It’s totally going to change, isn’t it? So right now I’m not doing any of the like meal boxes, although I’ve been wanting to. Honestly I feel like that would save tons time and a lot of help to be honest with you. But I actually use this app called Tasty. It’s and it’s like a bunch of fun recipes. It has a video for each recipe, which I love. So it like walks you through how to do the recipe and like when you actually I’m such a visual person, so seeing someone do the recipe really helps me. And then also I am just like in love with Food Network and the Cook, the cooking Channel and all of those like competition shows.
Amy Stone [00:02:56]:
Yeah.
Emily Guerra [00:02:57]:
So my fiance says that that’s my culinary school is the Food Network. So hey, it works. I love it.
Amy Stone [00:03:04]:
I am a big fan. When I was younger and sort of learning how to cook, stepping up from sandwiches to meals for my family and stuff, I definitely, I was the Food Network before the holidays specifically. Really, really helpful. This is in day. This is long before TikTok videos. And also there a magazine, an old school magazine which is called Cooks, which is a test kitchen. It’s like a. And so they’ll do. It’s like, it’s not very many and you know, but they would do like 12 different comparisons of like pans or four different ways to make cookies and these very, very kind of high touch complicated recipes. And so I did that for a while when I was trying to get really serious about learning it. And I still use some of the things I learned from them. There you go. I don’t subscribe for it anymore, but now I, I love to watch the little videos on TikTok and every once in a while I will make something and I’ll share it with the kids. I’m like, this is a TikTok thing that I learned. And they like, you know, sometimes they’re good. I got one of the kids a couple years ago, a book, a cookbook that was like TikTok recipes but in a book. And I didn’t know whether or not it was going to be a hit or miss as a present because like they could have looked at it and been like, lame mom, totally lame. But it was a hit. They’re like, no, this is really handy because then it’s right in front of us. We don’t have to be looking.
Emily Guerra [00:04:26]:
You don’t have to go searching for it. Totally. That’s. Honestly, I have so many recipes saved, but because I have to like go search for it in my favorites or wherever I have it, I’m just like, eh, the app is easier. So then like I go to my tasty app and like, you know what I mean?
Amy Stone [00:04:41]:
So that hurdles there for me. No, I think that’s fantastic. Absolutely. So the topic of the day is not actually how to keep track and organize recipes on your phone, although maybe it should be. We’re going to talk about a shift you made actually during lockdown, a career shift. Everybody has a lockdown story and everybody’s different. Yours is related to a career change that you made. Tell us what your profession, your career was before lockdown in the pandemic.
Emily Guerra [00:05:09]:
Yeah, so prior to Covid, I was a wedding and event planner. So I would spend, honestly, all of my work days, most of my work nights, and most of my weekends truly either planning events, being at events, planning weddings, dealing with clients, the whole shebang.
Speaker C [00:05:28]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:05:28]:
So when lockdown happened, weddings stopped, events stopped, and therefore my career stopped literally overnight, which is such a crazy thing.
Amy Stone [00:05:38]:
And it took a lot. It was. It’s one of the industries that was so clearly immediately affected and took a long time to recover. And so I think everybody is very familiar with at least that side of it. Was this when you were event planning, were you event planning in your own business or you were working for. As a part of a team for somebody else?
Emily Guerra [00:05:56]:
I was working as a part of a team for somebody else. I was actually part of two separate teams.
Amy Stone [00:06:01]:
So very, very good. And how did you get into. If we rewind the. Rewind the clock, how did you get into event planning? Is it something that you knew from a early day that you always wanted to do, or how did that happen?
Emily Guerra [00:06:14]:
Yeah, honestly, it was something that I feel like probably began when I was a little kid and I would be watching TLC say Yes to the Dress. And I was like obsessed with that as a little kid. I recently got engaged and I started rewatching it and I’m like, oh, my God, I love this. But I feel like that kind of got the curiosity going.
Speaker C [00:06:37]:
Right?
Emily Guerra [00:06:38]:
So then throughout high school, throughout college, and being so fortunate to be in la, where there are endless amount of events, endless amount of opportunities, endless amount of different kinds of event companies. I just naturally started interning and I was really just gravitated towards. I started with like first corporate events, and then I realized I love being a little bit more creative and tending to an individual. And so that’s when I kind of transitioned into more personal events like birthday parties and fun celebrations and weddings.
Amy Stone [00:07:11]:
I love that. And so what were the things that you loved about event planning? You loved the details and the creativity, what else?
Emily Guerra [00:07:19]:
Definitely the details. I’m a very detail oriented person. And I am also actually super adhd. And so normally those two things, like, don’t go together. However, I feel like having been in therapy all of My life. I also learned through therapy that organization was actually kind of like my ADHD medication.
Speaker C [00:07:40]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:07:41]:
And so I really became very, almost like addicted to trying to stay organized and given event planning, wedding, like if you’re not organized, you’re kind of screwed. So you have to be organized in that industry. So I loved that. I loved creating workflows, I loved having templates. I love knowing exactly what to do, when to do it and how to do it. And with every event planner, there is always a system, always a structure. And so I really used that in my personal life, in my schooling and everything else too.
Speaker C [00:08:13]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:08:13]:
It taught me a lot. So that was one angle that I absolutely loved. And then the other angle of it that really got me excited every single day was the client and delivering and creating something out of nothing that really tended to the client’s dream.
Speaker C [00:08:33]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:08:33]:
Especially in terms of wedding. We all have an image of what we want and it’s up to the event planner to bring that image to life.
Speaker C [00:08:42]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:08:42]:
And to make it feel easy to do. And that to me was such a magical, beautiful part of event planning. And like every time I went to events, seeing the bright eyes and the smiles and the thank yous and just like the tears in the eyes sometimes, like that made it all worth it. So I loved that part.
Amy Stone [00:09:04]:
So it’s super interesting that you talked about the ADHD component and complicated systems. I’m not an ADHD expert, but, but in my lived experience and just the people I’ve known, I know so many people who are, who have ADHD diagnosis of one form or another who excel at creating and organized very complex systems. And so I have no idea what the connection is, but it’s so interesting how they, and they’re like, that’s fine, here’s my 234 part process and, or, you know, color coded, color coded spreadsheet, you know, and so I have no background for that, but I think that somebody else out there probably does know more about that and they can reach out and message me and say, hey, this is the connection. And this is why, why you’ve noticed that. Because here’s why some people, it works like that. I think, I think it’s interesting and I know there are some people who will push back on some of the stereotypes about the diagnosis and actually refer to it as a superpower in some instances. Totally. Yeah.
Emily Guerra [00:10:08]:
Oh my God, totally.
Speaker C [00:10:10]:
Right?
Emily Guerra [00:10:10]:
And that’s so funny that you bring that up because whenever I say that, like, oh, my organization and my systems, they really are my ADHD medication. And present day, I no longer take ADHD medication because I really do use my productivity and my systems and everything that I study and practice as my medication.
Speaker C [00:10:29]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:10:29]:
And when I tell people that, they’re always like, how.
Amy Stone [00:10:32]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:10:32]:
That doesn’t make sense.
Amy Stone [00:10:34]:
Like, tell me more.
Emily Guerra [00:10:35]:
Yeah, truly, that’s always the reaction.
Amy Stone [00:10:38]:
That is really interesting. All right, off topic a little tiny bit, but we’ll get back on to. So you’re in this space, you’re working for two different event planners. How. So this was locked down. Where were you in your life? Were you a student there? Had you graduated? What was going on else in your life at this time?
Emily Guerra [00:10:54]:
Yes, I was about to graduate. So I was in my senior year of college and I had been working at these two event planning companies throughout the second semester of my senior year. And I actually interned with them prior. So we already had that really relationship going. And they. I had like confirmed that they would be my post graduate career and positions.
Speaker C [00:11:17]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:11:17]:
So I was on that trajectory. Exactly. And then considering where Covid began or when Covid began during the semester, it was right before I graduated, like, truly, a couple of weeks before I graduated.
Amy Stone [00:11:35]:
So, yeah, so Covid was like end of March, Valentine’s Day, end of like February. March was when, like the shutdown began. And so you were gonna graduate in the spring of 2020. Exactly. So that is a massive, massive change. This is not the graduation present that anybody wants. What an emotional rollercoaster. To go from having a career locked in and a job offer to. Well, to, you know, global pandemic. That’s an unpleasant shift. Did you study meeting planning? What was the degree?
Emily Guerra [00:12:07]:
Communications. What’s my degree?
Speaker C [00:12:09]:
Very.
Amy Stone [00:12:10]:
Okay, so excellent. Love it. That’s my degree too, so. And you know, now I do this talking all day long every day. So you. You’re in this and you go through this massive shift. It happens so fast. What was the. What was your first sort of. Well, I mean, in the beginning we thought it was going to be a couple weeks. So what was the first round of response? Like, did you just think like, oh, you know, hit pause for a second, a couple days off?
Emily Guerra [00:12:37]:
At first I kind of thought that, but then I also realized that I had to move out of my sorority house. I needed to pay for an apartment.
Amy Stone [00:12:48]:
And I still living in campus housing. Oh, my gosh.
Emily Guerra [00:12:51]:
I was truly still like in my sorority house.
Speaker C [00:12:54]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:12:54]:
A couple weeks to figure it out. And I had plans to move in with my best friend post graduation. We were going to get an apartment the whole shebang. But she also lost her job. And so now neither of us had an income and we both like, without an income, we can’t afford an apartment. So we both ended up moving home. Unfortunately, my home, since my parents got divorced, there was no longer a home. And so I ended up moving halfway across the country and with my older brother, his wife and their three kids. And that transition, going from a Los Angeles sorority house to a midwestern southern suburb with three little kids was a shock to say the least. Not what I was expecting. And I honestly thought it was just going to be for the summer, right? I was like, by the end of the summer, like I will be back in la. I’ll be back to my wedding and event planning jobs, I’ll get that apartment with my friend and we’ll be back on track. All good to go. That was kind of my plan and what I thought would happen.
Amy Stone [00:13:58]:
This is really, this is a foundational like shift for you that was unexpected because you were set up for launching on your own and being independent. You had a plan to be financially self sufficient. And this in some ways it sounds like, and correct me if I’m wrong, forced you to examine your support system and come up with, come face to face with like some not really super fun challenges. Like we want our parents to be our emergency blanket. But you said that wasn’t an option for you. You had to reach out to a sibling.
Emily Guerra [00:14:37]:
Yeah, it really was not an option for me. My mom, she had been moving around the country. Honestly, she’s moved like 10 times in the last 10 years, I swear. So she was all over the place with her husband. My dad and stepmom had three, have three little kids of their own. I have a dog, one of those kids is allergic to dogs. So that, and it created a hurdle and it was just no longer an option for me to go there. And luckily my older brother is actually 12 years older than me, so he has his life a little bit more together, especially at that point in time. And he, I called him up and I was like, I don’t know what to do, where do I go? How do I do this? And he’s like, you come here, come to my house. I got you. However long you need, it’s okay. So honestly, like every day I think back on that and I’m like, thank God for my older brother. He really did. He was that rock that I needed when there was no other stability. And I tell him that all the time. I’m so grateful for him. I don’t think I would be doing what I’m doing today if he didn’t take that chance on me and, like, allow me to smooch off him for several months.
Amy Stone [00:15:50]:
So. Yeah. And so if it’s not too personal, I’d love to know where you’re, like, emotional state was kind of in that while you were figuring it out, like, did you reach out to your parents and ask. You don’t only share, like, what? Totally comfortable sharing, you know, did you reach out to your parents and did you feel like a little bit of, like, oh, my gosh, like, aren’t you supposed to be the people? Like, was it hard? Was there, like, some emotional, like, where are the people who are supposed to help me kind of thing?
Emily Guerra [00:16:19]:
Definitely. I. So my parents got divorced when I was in middle school, and when I actually went into college my freshman year, I stayed at college housing all throughout college. I never moved home. So When I was 18, I was out of the house and never went back. And growing up, I always kind of felt like there was a tug and pull between my parents, right? Like, one was always mad at the other and there was always arguments going on, and it just was never, never stable in that sense. So there was half an expectation that they wouldn’t rise to the occasion when I needed them, because there have been several experiences in the past where that just didn’t happen, where I kind of felt like I was left and I had to figure it out on my own. And my therapist was like, you shouldn’t be that surprised, right? Like, this has happened before. Like, it’s not that shocking that it’s happening again. But I also was like, yeah, but they’re my parents. Like, come on. And like, they’re supposed to be the ones who are, yes, make room for me no matter what, and they’re not making room for me. And that makes me feel like crap. Like, that sucks. It’s not a good feeling, right? And I was really angry about it for several months. I was very resentful towards them. And I kind of kept. It’s like, weird looking back, right? I kind of kept almost blaming Covid on them in a weird way, right? Because I’m like, I. Cause like, my dad lives in Los Angeles, and so I was like, if I could just stay with my dad and stay in la, then I’d stay near all my friends. I’d stay near my career opportunity, but because that’s not happening and da, da, da, da. Like, it just turned into this whole whirlwind of anger and resentment that I really had to be very intentional about and work a lot in therapy on it, on letting that go, on realizing that they did the best with what they have. And that is all I can ever ask for. And I’m okay. It all worked out. I figured it out. It taught me a lot of lessons, and it honestly probably pushed me to be who I am today.
Speaker C [00:18:32]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:18:33]:
So having a little grace and a little gratitude can be challenging. In those moments when you feel like you’ve been let down, yet that is the thing that pulls you back up at the same time.
Amy Stone [00:18:46]:
So you did an excellent job of sharing that story. And it’s clear to me, as someone who’s listening to it, that you really have worked through it. And you described it with like, you know, very level headed. The, you know, the connection between expectations and resentment is such a straight line. And it’s like, you know, if you, if you have the expectation, which I think is an unspoken societal, like, construct. Parents are supposed to be there when I meet them. Yeah. They’re supposed to sacrifice, do all those things, and then they are unable or unwilling for any reason. That, for me is a straight line to resentment. And then like the, the two things. Right. First, the internal blam that I don’t know if you did, which is like, this is my fault. If I was better, they would, you know, do what I needed.
Emily Guerra [00:19:30]:
Did you okay whole life and then.
Amy Stone [00:19:33]:
Which is a terrible thing to do to ourselves, but we all do it. And then the next one is okay. This external thing that has happened to me, this is the cause of all my problems and I’m going to blame them so that I don’t have to face it. So you, you went through a lot. How long did it take you to. Was it, was it a quick thing where you felt secure and safe reaching out to your older brother, or did it take you a while and some desperation before it’ like, oh, my gosh, who do I. Who do I call?
Emily Guerra [00:20:00]:
You know, That’s a great question. I feel like the desperation honestly sank in very quickly.
Amy Stone [00:20:07]:
I can’t imagine being living in the sorority house and being like, you know, hey, everybody’s gotta go.
Emily Guerra [00:20:12]:
Yeah. I mean, it was truly like within a month, we had to figure everything out.
Speaker C [00:20:16]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:20:17]:
And so I think what’s so funny is when lockdown officially began, I was actually at a music festival with friends. And it was like the last music festival of the country or of the. Yeah, in the country of that time. And when we got home, by the time we got home from the music festival, Classes were all canceled. Everything was transition. I’d already lost both of my jobs. My friend had already lost her job. So it was within a matter of days that everything kind of fell apart.
Speaker C [00:20:46]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:20:47]:
So that desperation really sank in very quickly, and I almost immediately kind of panicked. And I after, like, immediately panicking, going to my dad, going to my mom, realizing that that wasn’t going to work out, I just immediately went to my older brother. And I think that I’ve done that throughout a lot of my life. Because he’s 12 years older than me. He’s always like, when I was a little kid, I used to call him dad all the time by accident instead of Adam. So it’s just like. Like, that felt very natural to me.
Speaker C [00:21:20]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:21:20]:
And I feel very lucky that I have not just that one older brother. I have two older brothers. The other one just wasn’t in a position to help me out. But he did emotionally a lot.
Speaker C [00:21:31]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:21:31]:
Even though he couldn’t, like, financially or actually move me in, Always checking in on me, always being there for me. And so my older brothers definitely were the immediate kind of secondary to parents of who I reached out to.
Amy Stone [00:21:44]:
That is fantastic, and kudos to you for having the strength to work through it and the courage to call them and take action on it. But I think it was a very profound shift in your life at a transitional point where you’re, like, redefining who you are anyway. And then to have this just be so close you can taste it and then be given an option that was not what you wanted. That’s a tough adjustment. Even, you know, you can get a very, very, very best offer. But you. What you wanted to have was the apartment and event planning in Los Angeles. And what you got was confusion and depression and Midwestern life with family.
Emily Guerra [00:22:28]:
Yeah, that’s exactly what happened. Not that Midwestern life with family is negative in any way.
Speaker C [00:22:34]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:22:35]:
It’s just not going back to expectations. It was not the expectation that I had, which then built up the resentment that I was left with.
Amy Stone [00:22:43]:
All right, so then it’s not your choice to give up event planning. Although, I mean, did you. Well, there was no option. There was no option because there were no events. So you could not have taken that training and experience and launched an event planning thing from the basement of your brother’s house. What did you go through? So did you go through a period of like, I don’t have any idea what to do now, or was it immediately like, oh, here’s the next best thing?
Emily Guerra [00:23:08]:
I had at least three Months of sulking and kind of waiting also.
Speaker C [00:23:15]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:23:15]:
Because if we remember, like, back to the beginning of lockdown, any day now, any week now, like, it’s. It’s okay. A little bit longer and we’ll be there. And it just never came. And I think it was like after month three, when I was like, another like, curfew or lockdown timing. What are those called?
Amy Stone [00:23:37]:
When I don’t remember.
Emily Guerra [00:23:38]:
But it was, you know what I mean?
Amy Stone [00:23:40]:
Ridiculous. Yes.
Emily Guerra [00:23:42]:
Another rule got put in place and I was just like, you know what? This isn’t gonna end anytime soon. And I haven’t been making money all summer. I eventually want to move out of my brothers. I can’t be living here forever. I need to do something. Like, I need to start making money.
Speaker C [00:23:59]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:23:59]:
And so half a little bit of sense of, like, kind of desperation, but also half this sense of I need to take back control of my life. Like, this is ridiculous. I’ve really given all of my power away. I am placing blame on everyone but myself. And I need to take some accountability and, like, actually get my act together and see what I am able to do. Sure. May not be event planning, and that sucks. I get that. But what else can I do?
Speaker C [00:24:30]:
Right?
Emily Guerra [00:24:30]:
And that was kind of like that mentality that I had with, honestly, the help of my therapist. I don’t.
Amy Stone [00:24:35]:
So I was gonna say, did you get there by yourself or did somebody sort of show you the mirror and like, hello, let me definitely gently adjust it.
Emily Guerra [00:24:44]:
Yep. And honestly, she had to show me that mirror for like, at least a month for me to really process it and actually make some changes and start taking some action.
Speaker C [00:24:53]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:24:54]:
Because I was definitely very stuck and glued to this story of what I wanted to happen pre Covid. And because it wasn’t happening, I was wallowing and I was sitting in that. Sitting in an action and sitting and feeling stuck instead of making small, tiny incremental changes to move myself out of it.
Speaker C [00:25:15]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:25:15]:
And that’s what my therapist helped me realize. And that’s when I started really making those transitions.
Amy Stone [00:25:21]:
So, yeah, I think that that’s really, really key. Now let’s talk about your friend support at this. Kudos to your and your family and your therapist who were there supporting you and helping you realign. You had a community of similarly age, similar stage, similar stage within your sorority and your other classmates at school. Were you in contact with them during this, like, time of upheaval and watching other people manage it and do things? Like, was there comparison going on? Like, what was that? Like at that time, because I was at a completely different, like, age group stage in my lockdown where I had, like, kids and, you know, K through 12 school and like, you know, like, trying to. Trying to do that kind of thing. So what was it like for the recently graduated young adults?
Emily Guerra [00:26:10]:
Yeah, yeah, I think we were all feeling it on different levels.
Speaker C [00:26:14]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:26:15]:
So, like, I had something going on, but all of us had something going on. Whether it was losing jobs or losing family members or, you know, there was a wide range of heartbreak around my friend group. And looking back on, even in the moment, I was so appreciative for all of my friends because we really did keep in touch every single day, checking in on each other. We would send each other gifts all the time. So, like, they would send me, like, those candles that, like, scented like the ocean or like LA or something like that just to give me a little sense of home. And we constantly checked in and updated each other. And I think if it wasn’t for having that consistent communication with people who are going through the same thing I’m going through it, I would have felt even more alone.
Amy Stone [00:27:09]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:27:10]:
And sure, we weren’t around each other anymore. Although I will say most of my friends were actually still within the same, like, within 20 minutes of each other. And I was really the only one that left. And so I definitely felt this sense of FOMO and the sense of, like, oh, like they just got together for dinner. I wish I could do that, but I have to wear a mask and be here. And like, I just. So I did start to feel a sense of isolation.
Speaker C [00:27:38]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:27:39]:
But I worked through it and eventually I came back to la. Obviously, here I am. So that gap eventually closed.
Speaker C [00:27:47]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:27:48]:
But in that moment, I felt it a little bit. I just had to constantly, like, remind myself, like, I would be doing the same thing if I was there too. Like, it’s not against me, it’s what they should be doing.
Amy Stone [00:27:58]:
Right, sure. And it would have been very difficult. You had the support of your family in the Midwest, but that was not where you had been located before. And during lockdown, that would be a really tough time to establish a new social connection. Web.
Emily Guerra [00:28:14]:
Yes, I was. I was also, like, in the suburbs.
Speaker C [00:28:19]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:28:20]:
So I. There weren’t any, like, fun activities or fun things around that I could go and like, meet people or whatever. Not that anything was happening. Right. Everything was so.
Amy Stone [00:28:32]:
Yeah. But during lockdown, what there was was sort of like the speakeasy socialization. Like, people were socializing. They just weren’t like, like talking about it necessarily. Like they were not going to restaurants, but they might be getting together in backyards and, you know, doing whatever it is. But I don’t, I have no idea how anybody would have established that in a new place where there was the, you know, the rules were being every day you’d wake up and it’s like, new rule, you know, everybody wash their, everybody wash their groceries. Okay, so it was, it was a wild time for sure. So tell us, as you come out of this event, planning is not an option. What do you eventually decide to work towards?
Emily Guerra [00:29:20]:
Yeah. So after some reflection, I realized I grew up with social media, right. It was almost second nature to me. And so I ended up getting an online certification to become a social media manager. I knew a handful of entrepreneurs who were looking for help at the time. And so I reached out to them, let them know, hey, I just got certified in this, like, here’s my hourly rate. Would love to help you out for X hours a week and let’s try it out this month and see how it goes. And that worked. And within I would say like two months, I had at least five clients and I had my first corporate client as well. And so that really allowed me to save up some money and be able to move back to LA 10 months after officially moving to the Midwest.
Amy Stone [00:30:12]:
Wow. So really actually a very fast turnaround for such a big change. Like if you.
Emily Guerra [00:30:16]:
No, honestly, yeah.
Amy Stone [00:30:17]:
Like if 10 years from now you’ll look back and it’s not. I mean, a lot of people who graduate may take them, you know, six to 12 months to actually get a job. And so, and you really. And so you shifted. It’s interesting you reflected that you were very much in sort of a, a stuck victim space, which everybody has their moments, like, so no judgment ever for me, for anybody who’s doing that. But you didn’t go and get another job. You really took the bull by the horns and you were like, I am going into business for myself.
Emily Guerra [00:30:49]:
Which was, I think a little bit out of being naive and not realizing exactly what it was I was signing up for, to be perfectly honest with you.
Speaker C [00:30:59]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:31:00]:
My dad is an entrepreneur, one of my older brothers is an entrepreneur, my sister in law is an entrepreneur. So there’s a lot of entrepreneurs in my family.
Amy Stone [00:31:09]:
Okay.
Emily Guerra [00:31:09]:
And that’s, I think, why it kind of felt like an obvious step, like, oh, well, they do it. If they could do it, I could do it.
Speaker C [00:31:16]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:31:16]:
Like, can’t be that hard representation. Totally. And then I started doing it and I was like, what am I doing? Like, I don’t know how to do this. This is crazy. Would have been. Been helpful if, like, maybe I had some sort of savings or something that allowed me to take chances, take risks, try this out, do ads, do all that kind of thing. So in hindsight, which is always 2020, I do kind of wish I got a job, got something, and then built this freelancing business on the side, right? So that way I could build a little bit more stability in the beginning instead of feeling so stressed out that I have to get this dollar I need to make my rent and that kind of stuff. Because that was not fun.
Amy Stone [00:31:59]:
Just the pressure. The pressure is a lot. The. Did you consider or try to get a job at this time, or did your mind immediately go to, here’s this thing I can build for myself?
Emily Guerra [00:32:11]:
I was so stuck in wedding planning that I was like, I don’t want a job if it’s wedding planning.
Speaker C [00:32:19]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:32:20]:
Which really limited me. And I wish I did not do that. I wish I really did try and go get something else outside of freelancing, outside of wedding planning, just to see that I could to build up that stability, build up a resume. But at the same time, I love that I didn’t because it was such a risk and very ballsy. And looking back, I’m very proud of myself, very proud that I was able to follow the trajectory that I did, build up success, build up sustainability, build up stability, and then be able to do even more businesses.
Speaker C [00:33:00]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:33:01]:
Whether it’s my productivity flow business or anything else that I’m gonna eventually do one day. So it really built that foundation for me that I didn’t realize I was building at the time.
Amy Stone [00:33:11]:
Okay, so then you start the social media business. That’s not the business you have today.
Emily Guerra [00:33:17]:
It is not.
Amy Stone [00:33:17]:
Okay. All right, so very, very cool. So today you have a productivity coaching business. Is that what you do? Okay, Productivity coaching.
Emily Guerra [00:33:26]:
The question.
Amy Stone [00:33:26]:
I’m going to give you a second to talk to people about that directly. But the question I have is when you look back on it now, first of all, I want to rewind and give you some kudos for taking the action and being brave to start your own business and doing the things like reaching out and asking people if they’d be your client, because that’s something that people really do struggle with. And so you deserve praise for, you know, muscling through that and hustling and taking action instead of, you know, choosing. There’s a choice there. You can choose to sit on your brother’s couch in the basement and play Mario Brothers with the kids. Right. So.
Emily Guerra [00:34:02]:
Which I did for months.
Amy Stone [00:34:03]:
There you go. So do you see? What did you see as you were going through? Was there an overlap in the skills that you had from like school and wedding planning that has carried through into the social media management and into now the productivity coaching business? Would you say that there’s a through line of things that you’ve carried through 100%.
Speaker C [00:34:23]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:34:24]:
And I think the biggest thing is my organization and the way that I create workflows and how I’m so into systemizing things, which I really got from wedding planning at first.
Speaker C [00:34:37]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:34:37]:
And then I brought that into my schoolwork and then I’m. I now then brought that into my freelancing work. Work. And I think having that just kind of love, like nerdy love for systems and for organiz organization and for really just trying to be the most effective and efficient that I can be yet, while also staying mindful, also staying true to myself, not, not burning myself out, all of the mindful and work life balance kind of values that I really hold very dear to my heart, bringing that all together into my freelancing business. I started that business kind of thinking to myself, like, I want to prove to people that you can be very productive, have a lot of clients, get a lot done, but also still feel balanced, still have a life, still feel like you are in control of you and not your clientele being in control of you. And I just really want to show people, especially my clients, right. I was working with a lot of entrepreneurs at the time and one very big common theme between all of them was none of them had balance. All of them though, did have goals. They did have a vision for their business, for their future. They just never worked backwards to figure out how what they’re doing right now is going to lead them to their goals. And I just naturally kind of saw that and I was like, hey, we need to create an action plan here. We need to work backwards and then let’s create systems and workflows and automation so that way we can get there easily.
Speaker C [00:36:06]:
Right?
Emily Guerra [00:36:06]:
Like, and so I just naturally started coaching my freelance clients on how to just boost their productivity mindfully.
Speaker C [00:36:13]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:36:14]:
And several of them came to me after a couple of months and they were like, you have helped me so much with so much more. Like beyond social media, this is what you need to do. Like, you need to go start a productivity coaching business because you have changed the game for me. And I was like, oh, okay, let me take that idea and run with it.
Speaker C [00:36:33]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:36:34]:
So I did. And at first I really started just focusing on helping solopreneurs, other freelancers, entrepreneurs who wanted to create a startup or lead into something bigger. And now I, of course, still coach that clientele, but I also have really now started working a lot with hybrid workers as well. So people who are just employees, maybe they don’t have their own business, but they do work from home or they have that hybrid lifestyle going on right now. And how do we do that?
Speaker C [00:37:03]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:37:04]:
My whole life, I’ve only ever worked from home. Whether you think about school or even wedding planning, a lot of the time, like, I would be working from home. And now my freelance career and my business, like, that’s all I’ve ever done. I’ve never really gone and done that corporate lifestyle in the office type of thing. And so that is how all of the things have really worked together to allow me to become this productivity coach.
Amy Stone [00:37:30]:
All right, so that is. That is fantastic. So we’re going to begin to wrap this up, but I have two more questions to ask you. One is, after you made this first decision into the social media and now in these other businesses, have you ever thought to yourself or wished or thought to like, have you ever missed the event business and considered going back to event planning?
Emily Guerra [00:37:50]:
Yes, I did. So when I initially moved back to la, I actually got hired on by one of the top wedding planners here in Los Angeles. And it was like, truly like a dream job that I would have died for in college.
Speaker C [00:38:05]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:38:05]:
And after a couple months of doing that and I still had my freelancing business, I was still running that full time and really kind of working at the wedding planning industry, only part time. And then I realized I actually love working for myself. I don’t love having a boss and I love having my weekends. I love having my week nights.
Speaker C [00:38:29]:
Right?
Amy Stone [00:38:30]:
Yeah.
Emily Guerra [00:38:30]:
That sense of balance, I didn’t realize how much I was missing that until I really started freelancing. And I had the control that I was yearning for in wedding planning.
Speaker C [00:38:43]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:38:43]:
So in reality, Covid was honestly the break that I needed to slow down, to realize that I was totally burnt out and to realize that there are other options for me.
Speaker C [00:38:55]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:38:55]:
I just never considered them. So going back to wedding planning, realizing all of this, I was like, very confident in making the decision that, no, I want to work for myself. Freelancing is my trajectory right now. You know, who knows, in like 20 years, maybe I will go back to it.
Speaker C [00:39:10]:
Right?
Emily Guerra [00:39:10]:
Like, I have to plan my own wedding now.
Amy Stone [00:39:13]:
So I, I was thinking about that. I was thinking the other thing, which may not actually be a question, but I’ll just throw this. It’s come up in a conversation earlier that I had today, which is, is life now with work from home and hybrid working has really rewritten so many things and created a vacuum of sort of experts. So when I think about all of the sort of work life balance and family balance and domestic workload advice, that was sort of the bulk of how people were teaching each other how to do things before lockdown, a lot of that doesn’t work. In the new context of we’re all at home all the time. The boundary, there’s no geographic. Nobody gets up and goes to work. Everybody’s on top of each other all the time. I really think that there’s a space for a new group of experts rising up for. I mean, I definitely, I don’t know that I would get advice from this, from somebody who had, you know, spent all of their time in an office.
Speaker C [00:40:11]:
Right.
Amy Stone [00:40:11]:
You have to. Right. So I think that that is when it comes to productivity and systems now, they’re totally different. So all the.
Emily Guerra [00:40:20]:
I love that you said that because. And I tell my coaching clients that all the time.
Speaker C [00:40:24]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:40:24]:
Like, all of this, this advice that you’ve been hearing about productivity, work, life balance, the advice that’s kind of old news that you’ve been hearing for years doesn’t apply anymore.
Amy Stone [00:40:34]:
It’s.
Emily Guerra [00:40:34]:
It’s truly does not take into account our new lifestyle, that remote lifestyle, and the way that the brain works.
Speaker C [00:40:42]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:40:42]:
And I take into account both. I love learning about the brain. I love researching, listening to podcasts, reading books by neuroscientists, all the things.
Speaker C [00:40:52]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:40:53]:
Just to really understand how can we work with ourselves, not against ourselves. And 99% of the productivity advice out there forces you to work against yourself. That’s why I really don’t believe in a lot of it. I really, I take bits and pieces from stuff and I weave it all together into this modern work from home era. That’s what we all have to be doing. Nobody taught you how to do it.
Amy Stone [00:41:20]:
Nobody coach is helpful and nobody would have known how to do it. So, like, one of the questions I asked you is transitioning from, like, busy to downtime. And you gave a work example which was really good. Well, you didn’t need that in 1988, because the way you transitioned from work to home was you, like, got in the car, got in the car, got in the train, and you made the geographic adjustment and Then you walked in your house and you were in a new place. And that is for most people, not the way it is. Not to mention all the other varieties of this, like with co working spaces and you know, nomadic spaces. Like this is all new. This is all new. So that is. It’s a. It’s a crazy new world. All right, so I want to give you a minute to. I’m going to do the final questions in a second, but I want to give you a direct chance to tell people what you do these days and how you want people to reach out to you after they watch or listen to the episode. And then you have a special offer that I’ll share with the audience.
Emily Guerra [00:42:12]:
Yeah, perfect. So I am a mindful productivity coach, founder of the Productivity Flow, which you can check out atthe productivity flow.com I have a free community where you can get a bunch of advice.
Speaker C [00:42:25]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:42:25]:
So definitely join that. It’s on my website and I also do one on one coaching. So if you are ready to honestly just figure out how to improve your schedule, improve your workload, figure out how to prioritize, figure out time management, all of the things that will enable you to be your most balanced and productive self. I’m your girl. So check it out@theproductivityflow.com I love that.
Amy Stone [00:42:50]:
All right, so you do have a generous offer for the audience. It’s a productivity alignment session and so it’s some time with you one on one. The value of these sessions is $150, but the members of the audience can get it for free. The There is a link in the show notes wherever you are watching or listening to the show. But the best way to get these links to redeem these is to be a subscriber to the imperfect adulting email community because then I email it directly to your email page box. You can just click on the link. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. I want to thank you very, very much, Emily, for that generous offer. Are you ready for the final free final three questions?
Emily Guerra [00:43:29]:
Throw them at me. Let’s do it.
Amy Stone [00:43:31]:
All right, very good. These are not related to the topic of the day. They’re just for fun. If you had a magic wand and you could create any kind of weather for yourself, what would you pick?
Emily Guerra [00:43:41]:
I would pick LA weather about 10 years ago where it was constantly 75 and sunny. Slight breeze, but just beautiful.
Speaker C [00:43:52]:
Right?
Amy Stone [00:43:53]:
And what’s the difference now? Is it warmer now?
Emily Guerra [00:43:55]:
It’s a lot warmer now. Honestly, I think global warming is really getting to us.
Speaker C [00:44:00]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:44:00]:
I mean, California, all the wildfires is a great sign of how global warming is attacking us, but it’s definitely a lot hotter. We get a lot more heat waves. We honestly get a lot more rain. I grew up in the.
Amy Stone [00:44:14]:
Yeah.
Emily Guerra [00:44:14]:
In the drought of California, so I’m not used to the rain, but it’s good for California. But yeah, that 75 and sunny is. Is kind of not as often to come by as it used to be.
Amy Stone [00:44:24]:
Fascinating. So. Yeah. So in Miami, the temperature has only risen a couple of degrees because we have the hu. But it makes such a big difference. Yeah. So. And it’s. It’s one of those things where you can totally gaslight yourself. Like, how could this be the difference? Because it’s just a couple degrees, but it’s just so much more oppressive of. Because we don’t get a swing in the temperature. Like, it’s like, you know, 88 at 3 in the morning in the sun. And it never. So we don’t get that early morning or late night, you know, dip in the temperature. It’s all day long, all the time. All right, so thinking back to your. I love that I’m asking you this question because you’re so much younger than me. Thinking back to your middle school self, name a band or a musical artist that you loved at the time.
Emily Guerra [00:45:06]:
Justin Bieber. Still love.
Amy Stone [00:45:08]:
Yay.
Emily Guerra [00:45:08]:
Let’s be honest. I had a cardboard cutout of Justin Bieber in my bedroom.
Amy Stone [00:45:13]:
Like, life size.
Emily Guerra [00:45:14]:
Like a big life size. Like. And when I got that, it was the happiest day of my middle school self. I had a Justin Bieber blanket. I went to all the concerts and all. Oh, my God. Obsessed.
Amy Stone [00:45:25]:
Love it. All right. Very, very good.
Emily Guerra [00:45:28]:
All right.
Amy Stone [00:45:28]:
As somebody who used to play on live events, what’s something you either always do or never do when you attend somebody else’s catered event?
Emily Guerra [00:45:37]:
Oh, I love this, this question. I always, always go to the people who planned it and just say thank you and tell them little pieces that probably other people aren’t noticing that I love.
Speaker C [00:45:52]:
Right.
Emily Guerra [00:45:53]:
Because as an event planner, there are so many tiny details that go into event that often get overlooked. And if I got like back in the day when I was planning and somebody came up and told me about these little details that they noticed. Oh, would have made my day. So I always try to do that for other event planners.
Amy Stone [00:46:14]:
That is fantastic. That is, you know, there’s a mainstream version of that is like, you can always tell if somebody’s worked as a waitress, if they stack the dishes for the server. It’s like, it’s. It’s like we’re ready for you. We’re going to help you because we have, once upon a time, had to crumbs. Exactly. 100%. That’s it. Emily Guerra, thank you so much for being an amazing guest today on the show.
Emily Guerra [00:46:35]:
Thank you so much, Amy. I had so much fun.