Making a Bold Decision to Embrace Something New and Unknown

Amy Stone [00:00:05]:
Heidi Medina. Welcome to the art of imperfect adulting.

Heidi Medina [00:00:09]:
Hi. Thanks for having me.

Amy Stone [00:00:11]:
I’m so happy you’re here. Are you ready for a fun chat?

Heidi Medina [00:00:16]:
I am totally ready. Let’s do this.

Amy Stone [00:00:18]:
Let’s do it. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. Today we’re going to talk about you making an international move, which is a topic I love to do. It’s. But first, first I’d love to know a little bit more about you personally before we dive in. Tell us a little bit about you outside of your job, outside of where you live, maybe the important people in your life, maybe some hobbies, whatever you want to share, as little or as much as you want to share.

Heidi Medina [00:00:43]:
Oh, you left that door wide open. Let me see. I. Well, I moved to Portugal six years ago with my husband. In that time frame I have been building my fifth business. I have also retired him from the corporate world for fun. I have a food block, simply sophisticated cooking that I started. Oh gosh, it’s been over a decade ago now. What else? Oh, I enjoy coloring with color pencils. I just got into watercolor pencils which by the way, if you have not tried them, highly recommend cool music. I’m all over the place on music and I enjoy a good three hour lunch with friends with wine.

Amy Stone [00:01:28]:
That sounds fabulous. All of it sounds fabulous. I’m gonna check. I don’t know what watercolor pencils are, but I’m gonna check em out. I’m definitely gonna check em out. So international moving is a very popular topic for a lot of reasons, right? For a lot of reasons. It gets a lot of attention for different things, but people have been doing it for a long time. You are in Portugal now?

Heidi Medina [00:01:50]:
Yeah.

Amy Stone [00:01:51]:
Yeah. Do you speak Portuguese?

Heidi Medina [00:01:54]:
Working on it. I’m not fluent, but can I carry on small conversations and stuff like that? Yes.

Amy Stone [00:02:00]:
All right, very good. So let’s back up. You moved how long ago? You said it, but say it again.

Heidi Medina [00:02:06]:
Six years ago. October of 2018.

Amy Stone [00:02:10]:
October of 2018. So that is before a lot of the. Things really shifted then with lockdown and all kind of things. So you were in Europe for. For all of that? Oh my goodness. That’s all right. Very good. Where did you live when you were in the States before you did your Amer exit?

Heidi Medina [00:02:27]:
Colorado. And actually the three years before we moved, we were actually digital nomads for three years. Combination of being in the US and Europe for three solid years and that we decided that we just weren’t cut out for full Time travel. We now slow travel three to four months out of the year, but it was really a blast. We did almost a year and a half of that over here in Europe and Morocco, uk Those kind of places. And then we did almost a year and a half in the US In a lot of states we hadn’t been to before or just hadn’t spent a lot of time in. So it was a blast. And then Colorado is actually home. I’m originally from North Carolina, but I moved away from there in 2007. This is when I moved to Colorado, and that’s when I met my husband, David.

Amy Stone [00:03:20]:
All right, so this is a great story. All right, so let’s talk about that. So you were. You guys were digital nomads and you were traveling full time. Does that mean you were doing the Van Life thing or were you going from Airbnb to Airbnb?

Heidi Medina [00:03:30]:
Yeah, we were doing that. Well, it was a combination. So we did a combination of things. We did do Airbnbs. We did like month long stays in each US at least in each country we were in or states, because part of them are in the US but we were also doing house sitting and I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of work away, which is a work in exchange for all your living stuff. You know, your place, you live, food, everything like that. We did some of those as well while we were in Europe, which was freaking amazing. And we do house sitting in exchange too, around the world. So we’ve done some pretty cool things and been the really neat places that we might not have gone to without those.

Amy Stone [00:04:13]:
Yeah, no, absolutely. I have not heard of work away. I’ve heard of a bunch of other things that are doing that I’ve heard of. There’s a program where you can go be on somebody’s farm and you pitch in. Right Y. And so heard of that. I’ve heard of 30 days in a wakeup, which is a. Like you sign on for a year and they plan it for you because there are different ways to do it and there’s. There’s a se. There was a point in lockdown where I was sort of obsessed with Van life and following people who were doing it. And there is a side. It looks like the perpetual travel. It looks really fun because that’s what they show you. But as I was like thinking about it, I was like, oh, you know, I think I would want to come home and like, sleep in my bed or check into the Marriott for five or six days and have a hot shower. You know, so it is and it does, but there are other parts of it that look like a lot of fun. But so you guys have been. This was a long time shift. You were moving away and like not living with a home base for a while. So when. So then the question I was gonna ask when did you start thinking about this move? But I’m going to back it up even further. When did you guys first begin to think about maybe we want to be untethered, maybe we don’t want a home base. Like when, when did you first start to think about we’re going to follow this non traditional path.

Heidi Medina [00:05:36]:
This is weird. So this goes back whenever. In seventh grade my dad bought home first computer. We had one of the, I think it was a Tandy 1000 back in the day. This is even before laptops, all of that kind of stuff. But we had it for a few weeks and I just looked at my dad and I said one day I’m going to live and travel around the world working anywhere from a computer. And I kind of always had that dream with me. But I kept tying myself down to businesses that couldn’t do that. Like I built a multi six figure landscape company and then I built a cleaning company in a spat in there. There was. I worked for corporate for a couple of years to corporate management. And I got diagnosed with cancer when I was 37. And it was kind of a big kick in the ass that Heidi, you’ve been wanting to do this stuff, it’s time to start putting that into play. And so that’s when the idea really got serious. At that point my husband David was. He’s heavily in oil and gas, the engineering side of things. And so he had an amazing job which was of course hard to let go, benefits, high pay, everything. And we still in the back of our mind we were like, okay, we’ll just start traveling more. And we ended up going to Italy in 2014. Our first trip out of the country other than Mexico, but like overseas and that kind of stuff. We got passport, I had to get a passport because the first time we gone to Mexico you didn’t need them.

Amy Stone [00:07:09]:
Back in the old days, that was.

Heidi Medina [00:07:11]:
Back in the day when you could go on your id. So we got our passports and we came to Europe for two weeks. We spent the whole time in Italy, Florence and Rome on that one. It was just like we loved it, absolutely loved it. And still we weren’t thinking, we were just still thinking we’d take, you know, two weeks to a month here and there and do some travel here and there. And then oil and gas industry lays. Lays everybody off every so often. It has slumps. They get laid off. It’s like this cycle. And he came home one day in, I think it was about April 2015, he came home and he said, heidi, he says, they’re getting ready to lay me off again. I’m probably going to be laid off about a year this time before they call us back. He says, we’ve got the savings. We’ve talked about doing this. It would actually be cheap. He had run the numbers. He had spent several days running the numbers because he knew he was going to have to convince me because he was the primary at that point on breadwinner and everything. So he had came home with a spreadsheet showing that we could actually travel for less than staying in Denver because Denver is not cheap. And this was back in 2014. Now that was 2015, sorry, 2014 was the first trip. And so I had to think about it for about a week. And then I kept looking at the spreadsheet and all that we knew was going to be laid off. And it’s like I had already moved all my stuff online at that point. I was start. I had started doing content, social media management, writing the content for large corporations. So it was like, I can do that on the road. And it was amazing. We. Our lease was coming up about the same time, so we were able to get out of that. We actually started house sitting because we were going to use that to help supplements. We didn’t have to use savings where we didn’t want to. So we finished up like three months of house sitting in Denver right before we left because it was the gap between when our lease came versus when we actually left to start traveling. And so we started our house sitting there, just getting in our local city, which worked out because we went ahead and got recommendations at that point. And from there our first country we landed in was Italy or month and the Portugal was number two. We fell in love. And from that, when we went to Spain and it continued from that point, it was just amazing. It really was. And that’s what got us started.

Amy Stone [00:09:44]:
That is very cool. So I love. I think, I think the favorite. My favorite part of what you just shared was that you had this vision when you were in seventh grade that you would be able to do this. So when I was doing. What was the name of that game? Oregon Trail and Lemonade Stand and whatever those goofy games, Mario Kart, you were like, I’m going to be on A laptop someday turning this around. That’s pretty. That’s pretty forward thinking, I really think. So you and your husband were talking about this openly, and you were making a plan. Who are some of the other people you first shared with that you were going to make the international move, that you were going to pack up and move to Portugal? And did you get any pushback or were you so ensconced in, like, groups that were okay with it that it was just like, yeah, go.

Heidi Medina [00:10:33]:
No, it was a lot of pushback. Our. Our friends thought we were crazy when we did the digital Nomad thing, and they were all relieved when we had come home, because we come home. David’s dad, I got diagnosed with cancer. So we came home and moved back. He. He went back into oil and gas and. And got the job and everything back. And we were home for almost a year, but it just did. We had fallen in love with the life, the quality of life we had in Europe while we were here. And so we were like, okay, we’re gonna pack it up and go. We’re not waiting till we’re retired. And it’s one of those things that, you know, you look back and you’re like, maybe I should have thought it through a little bit more. We actually came a year earlier than we planned. It just. Sorry, traffic sometimes. It just. We planned on staying there a year longer with him continuing to work while I was building up a business and really getting things off the ground because I had pivoted into coaching at that point, which is the business I’m in now. And it really wasn’t fully launched yet and not massive with clients or anything, so we probably should have waited the year, but it was just time. He was hating his job. It just. He was miserable. He was miserable, and he was just like, heidi, let’s just go. And so finally we were just like, okay, let’s do it. Let’s do it. So I actually built this business from the ground up during a move to a country we don’t know the language, our friends and family not happy. Everybody was like, you’re not gonna do it. It’s not gonna work. I mean, there was a handful, but most people were definitely massive pushback. And we were just like, this is what we want to do. It’s where we want to live. We felt like we. You ever felt like you don’t necessarily belong somewhere and you finally find the place you do?

Amy Stone [00:12:33]:
I think that. I mean, definitely, for sure, so. And I think that people do often feel that. And either. I mean, Maybe not everybody, but I think that, I think that a lot of. I know I do. I’ll walk into it can be like a local space, it can be a city, it can be a town. And I’ll either get like a feeling, I’m like, this feels right. Or this feels like I need to move along. I need to move along. And I spent, you know, and some of those are longer stays than others because you can make it work in a place where you don’t feel totally comfortable. It’s something with the kids in my family when they were choosing like schools and stuff and they were like, how do you choose? And you know, and I’m like, no, but there’s a thing about, you’ll get feeling when you’re walking through it, like, these people look like people. I like this town looks like a place. I’ll have fun. It feels right.

Heidi Medina [00:13:23]:
Yeah. Yeah. That’s what it was. I mean, we had fallen in love with the quality of life living in southern Europe. Whether it was Spain, Italy or Portugal, France was awesome. And it was so much more of a laid back life. It wasn’t. It’s not that people don’t work, they do. But there’s a different base of the thought process is the focus on having good life, just not work yourself to death.

Amy Stone [00:13:49]:
Right.

Heidi Medina [00:13:51]:
And for us, that was really what we were looking for because both of us have been part of the rat race forever. I mean, building my companies, my first companies, I did the whole hustle and grind thing. I mean, especially my big multi six figure landscape company. I was putting in 80 plus hours a week, just working it. And yeah, it’s my business. Everybody says you did it, but that’s what it took to do what I did at that point. And I just didn’t know any better. I was a lot younger then. And today I’m building a business with so much less hustle. And you know, just the emphasis now is a difference is on having a good life, to not just work yourself. And that was one thing that no matter where I’ve been in the States, it’s always that emphasis on the difference is here’s one of the differences in the States, the first question anybody ever asks you is what do you do over here? It’s not that it’s about what do you do for fun?

Amy Stone [00:14:44]:
Is that what they ask you? So that’s an interesting thing because I live in Miami, which has a different culture than other parts of the United States. Like every city has its own culture. So I’m not going to Say it’s like a rainbow unicorn thing. But the first question people ask you in Miami as a local, not as a tourist, but as a local, the first question people ask you is, where are you from? And so it’s a really, really interesting distinction because. And it’s for me, like, as somebody who’s not. It’s a really international city. And I’m like, I’m. I’m from the United States. And they’re like, no, no, but where are you from? And I’m like, okay, listen.

Heidi Medina [00:15:18]:
Yes.

Amy Stone [00:15:18]:
Do you want the city? Do you want the state? Do you want, like, where my great, great grandparents are? Like, what’s the question here?

Heidi Medina [00:15:24]:
Well, in reality, that is the first question in Europe, too, because everybody is from somewhere else, because Europe is. Is basically like the. Like the US with different states on the sizes. So even in the states, a lot of times you’ll get, which state are you from? But people don’t really too often assume you’re from anywhere else unless they can. You know, there’s some kind of visible clues that you maybe don’t belong in the sense of you’re an immigrant or something. But. And I don’t want to say don’t belong. That’s not right.

Amy Stone [00:15:56]:
No, but that you’re not. You don’t match. Yeah. You don’t match the culture. When I was right. When I. A student doing study abroad, one of my. One of my fellow students was very much. She wanted to look like a local. And she was. This whole thing, and she. And I was. She was a delightful person. It was a really fun project. She’s like, people will know that we’re American. And I was like, okay, okay. And I was going through this, and I was a student, you know, with like, a student wardrobe. And then it occurred to me, I was like, people are going to know anyway. Like, the minute I open my mouth, people are going to know. Like, I’m not going to let her. I was like. I was like, you go do this. I am going to not worry about people knowing, because this is not a secret, that I’m not actually from here.

Heidi Medina [00:16:36]:
Yeah. People, for me being in Portugal, they immediately see my red hair, and they know I’m not from here. Now my husband blends in, and his Portuguese is getting. He’s a little bit ahead of me, and so he can pull it off part of the time, but usually the mini opens mouth. They still know he’s not from there, but they’ll walk up at the street on him immediately. Just everything in Portuguese. They look at me. They know I’m not from here. And it’s funny, it’s always funny because they immediately switch to English. And that has made it a little more difficult to learn the Portuguese just because they want to practice their English. And I’m. But I’ve learned. What I’m learning to do now is if I know how to reply back, I go ahead and reply back in Portuguese so that I get to practice. They reply back in English and we both practice. So it works out.

Amy Stone [00:17:26]:
Yeah, no. And I. Can you ask them, do you sometimes say, hey, is it okay? Can I practice my Portuguese? Like that? Because I’ve found. I’ve found that sometimes when I’m traveling and people pick up on the fact, you know, and I’m like, hey, can we try this? And they’re like, sure. So. But it’s. It’s very good. Okay. So when you were in the planning process of this, making the move, you had a lot of experience with the nomad life, which gives you, I think, a batch of skills. But do you remember what kind of fears you had or apprehensions or worries? What was on your mind that you were thinking about? Like, I want. Well, maybe.

Heidi Medina [00:18:03]:
I don’t think we did at that point just because we had done all the travel ahead. I mean, there’s always doubts, especially when you’re moving somewhere. You know, did I pick the right place? Because we travel. We did so many cool places. There’s so many. But for Portugal, for picking that alone, was it just checked all the boxes, whereas a lot of other places didn’t check as many.

Amy Stone [00:18:29]:
And what were the boxes? What were you looking for in a place to go? Portugal is a really popular destination for it is.

Heidi Medina [00:18:36]:
But we were here before it was popular. We were here right when they were coming out of a really bad recession. So it was. It was all changing at that point from coming out of a big slump of things. And that was before it got popular. It’s very popular now. So it was. We must have fast Internet. I mean, my dream has actually always been to live in Italy, and we do spend a good bit of time there now. But one problem we had in Italy when we. Because we’ve spent literally months at a time there was. The Internet was not only not overly fast, but sometimes it would go down for two or three days at a time. And God, I love the Italians. I wish I could have their mindset all the time. They’re just basically like, okay, let’s go drink some wine. Do what we’re going to do. It’ll be back when it’s back. And I’m like, for me, for my work, though, and here I am for freaking out. So that just wasn’t a thing. But Portugal has an extremely new Internet system because they’ve just come out of, as you guys could say, they’ve come out of dictatorship. Sorry, menopause brain.

Amy Stone [00:19:47]:
Sometimes it’s like brain fog.

Heidi Medina [00:19:50]:
It’s like it was gone. But they’ve just only been out of a dictatorship, a really hard dictatorship for 50 years now. And so all their infrastructure is brand new. And so we have one gig, direct fiber, cable fiber in our home all the time. And so our Internet is extremely fast, which was a must. Good food. I had to be back close to the ocean because I grew up in the Wilmington area of North Carolina and Colorado, not having any ocean. I missed my seafood, I missed going to the beach. So that was a must. And good people, good food, close enough to an airport to get anywhere because we still travel. That was our biggies then. The visa system being relatively easy relative.

Amy Stone [00:20:38]:
Is a good frame for that because it is a process and it is complicated and I haven’t done it. I say that just from hearing what people say, talking about it. So how long between, I think you’ve talked about this a little bit. How long between when you had this idea, you talked about how you moved a year before you expected to. But how long before, between when you had the idea and when you actually loaded up your suitcases and got on the airplane, did it take to plan the move?

Heidi Medina [00:21:09]:
About eight months.

Amy Stone [00:21:12]:
That’s pretty fast. That’s pretty fast. Do you think it was accelerated because you had already redesigned your life to be less tethered from the nomadic stuff?

Heidi Medina [00:21:20]:
There’s no doubt that was why. Because when we first did the digital nomad thing, we had already packed our two bedrooms flat up into a storage unit. We had, at that point we had already started downsizing because what we had done to pack everything away, we had sold one entire set of bedroom stuff off. Dining room tables were already gone. I mean, there was a lot of stuff already gone. So we packed enough to redo a one bedroom flat in a storage unit. Because we were like, okay, when we get back, whatever size we get, we can always get more furniture and stuff like that. So we had everything already in storage. And the minute we had started pulling stuff out of storage. Funny, when you come back, you’re just like, you’ve been traveling for three years out of it. We each had a carry on and a backpack that’s how we traveled for three years. We didn’t put luggage under the plane. And so you’ve been traveling this minimalist life for three years and you come back, you literally got a one bedroom flat in a mini storage unit and all of a sudden you’re unpacking that thing and you feel like you are just swamped with stuff. So we’re immediately already getting rid of more stuff. And you’re also like, why did I store that? It was all of this stuff. So we were already downsized and we had already, at that point we had taken the cars down from one to two. And so this thing, it was relatively easy because we already knew how to do it all to get rid of everything. And so when we decided to move, we didn’t even bring a storage container like a lot of people did. We brought four giant suitcases, carry ons, backpacks and stuff and we moved over. So in eight months, once again, our lease on our flat had come due at the right time. Yeah, we house set for the. We were actually, from the time when our lease came up till we actually moved, we had six months. We did house sitting the whole time again just in the Denver area. And that filled the gaps. We actually ended up doing three because we were able to get two or three months at each one. And then we moved.

Amy Stone [00:23:25]:
Spectacular. Spectacular. And I think that it’s, I think it’s helpful for people who are thinking about this to have a context for how much sort of ramp up in practice you did. You had been away from home, you had been tethered.

Heidi Medina [00:23:40]:
Yeah, well, and I think it depends on where you are in life. And see, we already had that mindset. We had already done a lot of the downsizing. We already weren’t scared at that point because I mean, I know a lot of the expats I see coming over. The big thing people really is when they start having to let go of things and then some of them literally pack it all in storage unit and ship it over and then they get here and they realize they don’t need most of it. But I mean I honestly if, if I could redo it, I would have shipped a small amount of stuff like my kitchen. I didn’t realize how, what you accumulate because I’m, I’m a chef and I, over the years I had about 25 years I had accumulated all these professional kitchen stuff that I didn’t think about what it was going to cost to replace.

Amy Stone [00:24:35]:
Yeah.

Heidi Medina [00:24:35]:
And not to mention because I would buy the good pieces at 1:1, at a time instead of needing it all at once. And so my kitchen stuff, when I. I probably had 50, 60,000 just in my kitchen.

Amy Stone [00:24:47]:
Yeah.

Heidi Medina [00:24:48]:
And so now I am still even six years in working on, still replacing things, because that was stuff accumulated over decades.

Amy Stone [00:24:58]:
Yeah, well, and let’s. That doesn’t even take into account the emotional attachment to one’s favorite pan. When you have your double boiler, your lacru, you know, your enamel pan that you love, that’s the pan. Nobody else is allowed to touch it. Nobody else is allowed to clean it. That’s your pan.

Heidi Medina [00:25:17]:
I did ship all my knives.

Amy Stone [00:25:22]:
I can totally see that. I can. Absolutely. But that’s portable, right? That’s portable. And there’s the attachment. And so. And we do get emotional attachments to things. I love that about the kitchen. I do think that that is. That is a challenge. Every once in a while I think about the fact that, you know, there’s a phase. There was a phase. You know, when I was younger, I used to move. You know, he’s moving between apartments every six months or whatever you do when you’re a student. Everything I owned fit into like the back seat and trunk of a car. Right. It was a wonderful way to live. And fast forward. It’s like a moving truck. A specialist for this, like all of these things, it’s such a production. It’s like, sell it all, buy it again. But that’s a pain too. So that. That is very good. So what part of this process, the move, would you say caught you by surprise or that you under prepared for other than the kitchen? Favorite kitchen pans?

Heidi Medina [00:26:14]:
We actually should have applied for our visa from the US So in Portugal, you actually don’t. Well, and that could have changed now. So I don’t want to send anybody the wrong direction.

Amy Stone [00:26:23]:
Right.

Heidi Medina [00:26:23]:
Back when we did it, you could apply for Portugal, which is. It was a mistake. If we had done it from the US it would have taken approximately three, maybe three and a half months at the most. Doing it from Portugal took almost a year. So.

Amy Stone [00:26:42]:
And that sounds like it went. That’s a story I hear from a lot of people because they. You don’t know what they’re going to ask you for until they ask you for it. And sometimes it’s like, well, I would have to get that from the United States. Okay.

Heidi Medina [00:26:56]:
And not only that to get. So to get a lot of the documents, I had to be stamped by the U.S. right. You could do it at the embassy here, but it was so expensive. So if you had done it all in the States, this stuff’s relatively cheap. Getting copies of your records, what all. And, but everything had to be certified and, and that required stamps literally on every document for proof of who you were, birth certificates, you name it, it had to all be certified. And so we had to take it all to the US Embassy and have it done. Our fingerprints had to be done at the US Embassy. And in the States you could go get that done for 10, 20 bucks anywhere. At the embassy it was €60 a piece just to be fingerprinted. And by the way, visiting the US embassies, you think you’re going to show up and be offered milk and cookies and welcome home, you are not. You are treated like a foreign something else. So embassy visits were not fun.

Amy Stone [00:27:56]:
That is interesting. That is interesting. I remember. So that is, I have, I have heard that it’s more complicated and to your point, I do believe these things are changing rapidly in every country all the time. And it’s something that if you’re not paying attention to it, you may not realize it. So but right now, you know, like it is something that changes all the time and you have to check all the time what you need to do.

Heidi Medina [00:28:18]:
My advice is do it from your states or where you’re supposed to do it from. And then you don’t go through because then you don’t have language barriers. Like we had a language barrier at that point and we actually got here and we paid someone to help us do it because we pay. There’s Portuguese companies here that will help you do it. And it was worth the extra expense for us, us, because the language barriers on doing this stuff, it’s there, it’s Ms. You know, because you just don’t know all the things. So it was worth if, if you did do it from here, pay someone to help, don’t try to do it yourself, but do it from home. And you don’t have that situation and it would take a heck of a lot less time and it not cost you near as much. Save that money to get over here and drink wine, eat food.

Amy Stone [00:29:06]:
That’s right, absolutely. All right, so that’s, that’s all very, very cool. All right, so in a minute we’re going to do the final rapid fire questions, but you mentioned this quickly and I want to come back to it as a part of this process, you retired your husband from his career in oil and gas and you started a new business which is some form of coaching. And I want to give you a chance to talk about that and share with us what it is you’re doing, how can people find you? How do you help people these days?

Heidi Medina [00:29:34]:
Yeah, so I’m a marketing strategist and business coach. I’ve found it takes both to really get people to do a marketing the way they need to do. I support small to mid sized business owners because I’ve always been one and I always wanted to. So I pulled back out of corporate life and started supporting them to get online and really create marketing that lands them clients. And it’s been incredible. It’s been an incredible ride. This is the fifth business I’ve built over 30 years and it’s the last one.

Amy Stone [00:30:07]:
This is it.

Heidi Medina [00:30:09]:
Famous last words, Amy. You’re going to hold me to that one, but this one’s it. It’s. But I enjoy it and it’s truly amazing. And yeah, I’ve been able to. He hasn’t had to go back to work. He actually now supports in the company. He’s taken over handling all my video editing. He helps me run my events. He’s the guy behind the scenes running them so I can just show up and be the star. And it’s been incredible being able to support more people, to just be able to live their dream life instead of staying stuck in a life they don’t want. Because whether it is you want to move to another country or you just want to have freedom of even, you know, I want to work at the cafe down the street for two hours and not spend six to eight hours in a cubicle somewhere and work or dry sit two hours in traffic driving to work every day. It’s, it’s just incredible to be able to help empower more women and enlightened men, as I like to say, because that’s who, who I work with. And it’s freaking, it’s freaking amazing. It really is. And people want to find me, look me up on LinkedIn. Heidi Medina.

Amy Stone [00:31:18]:
Heidi Medina on LinkedIn. All right, so you have a special offer for the audience which I’ll share, which is a product that is called Get55 client attracting ways to share your lead magnet without feeling pushy or salesy. And there is a link to that in the show notes and also in the email that goes out if you are a subscriber to Imperfect Adulting’s email community, which everybody should be because that’s the easiest way to get these wonderful offers from our guests. Now I am gonna ask you three fun questions. Are you ready?

Heidi Medina [00:31:50]:
Let’s do it.

Amy Stone [00:31:51]:
Let’s do it. When you’re in a bad Mood. What’s something you do to try and cheer yourself up?

Heidi Medina [00:31:58]:
Take a bath.

Amy Stone [00:31:59]:
Okay. What is your favorite kind of cookie?

Heidi Medina [00:32:04]:
Ooh, chocolate chip.

Amy Stone [00:32:06]:
When I wrote this question, I wanted to write and why is it chocolate chip? But I didn’t know that yours would be chocolate chip. And I figured that there is a possibility that there’s somebody out there that doesn’t love chocolate chip cookies. So I shouldn’t put it thin there, but those are my favorite. 2. Chocolate chip and thin mints. What is the most romantic thing anybody has ever done for you?

Heidi Medina [00:32:25]:
Oh, well, I have to say it is Valentine’s Day.

Amy Stone [00:32:29]:
It is Valentine’s Day when we’re recording this. That’s right.

Heidi Medina [00:32:32]:
So. So just for that, hubby got flowers today.

Amy Stone [00:32:37]:
Very nice.

Heidi Medina [00:32:41]:
That’s been one of the fun things. He actually, over the years, he’s taken me traveling. He’s always getting me pretty flowers for the romantic stuff and, and just making sure. I’ll tell you one of the things I find the most romantic he does. Sometimes he’ll go to the spice shops and he’ll know I’ve had my eye on a new one that I haven’t tried yet and he’ll bring it home.

Amy Stone [00:33:02]:
That, that actually, that is very romantic because it’s something that you know that he knows that you like and he’s like doing something for you that you haven’t done for yourself. Wow, he’s a keeper.

Heidi Medina [00:33:13]:
Well, you already know that he’s also a little self motivated because he’s my official taste test sister.

Amy Stone [00:33:19]:
So still, still, I’m giving him a couple in here. Let’s do it. All right. That’s it.

Heidi Medina [00:33:25]:
He blows it out of the water when he does that. I mean, it is, it’s like, oh, there’s that spice I’ve been wanting to play with.

Amy Stone [00:33:33]:
Very cool. Thank you very much. Hi to Medina. You have been a wonderful guest today on the show.

Heidi Medina [00:33:38]:
Thank you so much for having me. Brilliant conversation.