The message arrives relentlessly from every direction: control your body, track your calories, follow the rules, stay thin. For most women, this conditioning begins in adolescence and continues through adulthood, creating an exhausting cycle of restriction and self-judgment that overshadows the very wellness it claims to promote. But what happens when you stop trying to control your body and start listening to it instead?
Lindsey Kaszuba spent her teenage years and twenties locked in that familiar battle. Growing up in Florida with a natural curiosity about health and wellness, she loved running as stress relief and appreciated her family’s focus on nutritious home-cooked meals. But that healthy foundation gradually twisted into something darker. “That curiosity and that yearning for knowledge sort of turned into an obsession with staying thin, staying a certain number on the scale, being fit, very scale obsessed,” Kaszuba said. “And that turned into very obsessive kind of habits around eating. I was calorie counting. I didn’t need to be doing any of these things, but I thought that’s what I had to do to stay a certain number on the scale or to be fit and thin.”
The shift from wellness to obsession happened so gradually that Kaszuba barely noticed it. The shoulds and shouldn’ts multiplied: calorie deficits, hard workouts, strength training, cardio. Every rule seemed reasonable in isolation, but together they created an exhausting system of self-surveillance that demanded constant vigilance. This is the pattern so many women recognize in their own lives, a progression that feels both deeply personal and universally familiar. What transformed Kaszuba’s relationship with her body wasn’t another diet or workout plan but rather learning to trust the very body she had spent years trying to control.
How Cultural Messages Become Personal Rules
The omnipresent nature of diet culture makes it nearly impossible to identify where external messaging ends and personal belief begins. Kaszuba’s family valued nutrition and home-cooked meals, treating fast food as an occasional indulgence rather than a regular option. On the surface, these were healthy values. But beneath that foundation lurked more insidious messages about worthiness and appearance.
“My mom was a very typical Gen Xer mom who watched what she ate, and she made sure she worked out,” Kaszuba said. “And she would always kind of do that body dysmorphia thing where she would look at herself in the mirror and be like, oh, I need to lose 10 pounds, or, oh, I can’t eat that, or, oh, I’m going to go to a wedding. I need to lose 10 pounds before the wedding.”
These seemingly casual comments created a template for how Kaszuba learned to view her own body. The message wasn’t explicit, but it was clear: thinness equals worthiness, and maintaining that thinness requires constant work and sacrifice. This pattern repeated across culture at large. Vogue magazine covers, Kate Moss posters, the physiques of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera all reinforced the same narrow ideal. “It was just like everywhere was just messaging of being thin,” Kaszuba said.
By college, Kaszuba had fully absorbed these messages as her own. She experimented with restrictive diets and cleanses, always chasing the idea that the right formula would finally deliver the control she sought. The emotional and physical toll of this constant restriction was exhausting, but stopping felt impossible. Everyone was doing it. Every magazine promised a solution. How could something so ubiquitous be wrong?
When Pregnancy Shatters the Illusion of Control
Pregnancy arrived like a reckoning. For someone who had spent years trying to micromanage every aspect of her body, the experience of growing another human exposed the limits of that control. “I was so out of control of my body,” Kaszuba said. “I gained 50 pounds. I didn’t feel like myself at all. There was so much pressure from society around being a tiny little pregnant person. And then also there’s this messaging of like, oh, after you have your baby, you’re gonna lose the baby weight in three months.”
The disconnect between expectation and reality was profound. Kaszuba had imagined herself as one of those women who bounces back effortlessly, her body cooperating with her will just as she had trained it to do for years. Instead, she discovered that her body had its own agenda, one that prioritized growing and nourishing a baby over fitting into pre-pregnancy clothes.
But something else happened during pregnancy that would eventually change everything. When Kaszuba gave birth without pain medication, she experienced her body’s capability in a completely new way. “I realized my body could do incredible things,” she said. This wasn’t the controlled, managed body of calorie counting and workout schedules. This was a body with wisdom and power that operated beyond conscious control.
The postpartum period brought its own challenges. Kaszuba struggled with maintaining nursing, feeling frustrated that her body wasn’t performing as expected. “It was always just like a fight with my body, and my body was never good enough for me,” she said. Yet those difficulties planted a seed. If forcing control hadn’t worked during pregnancy and wasn’t working postpartum, perhaps control wasn’t the answer.
Building a New Relationship Through Quiet Listening
The shift toward trusting her body didn’t happen overnight. Kaszuba began with small experiments, like shortening her workout sessions or skipping the gym entirely on days when her body felt exhausted rather than pushing through. She started choosing workouts based on what felt good, gravitating toward Pilates and yoga instead of forcing herself through punishing cardio sessions.
“What do I actually need today?” Kaszuba said. “And sometimes the answer was nothing. Sometimes the answer was a 10 minute walk. Sometimes the answer was, you know, maybe a little bit longer Pilates class. But I was learning to listen to my body as opposed to telling my body what to do.”
This process required creating what Kaszuba calls a pocket of silence, a space free from external noise where the body’s whispers could be heard. For her, that space often meant meditation or quiet reflection in the sauna. “In order to do that, we have to kind of create this pocket of silence around ourselves so that we can hear,” she said. “Because a lot of times, our body just speaks to us in whispers.”
The practice wasn’t always comfortable. Years of conditioning had taught Kaszuba to distrust her body’s signals, to override hunger with willpower and push through fatigue with discipline. Learning to honor those signals instead meant unlearning everything she thought she knew about wellness. It meant accepting that her body’s needs might change from day to day, that what worked yesterday might not work today.
Gradually, patterns emerged. Kaszuba noticed which foods gave her sustained energy and which left her bloated and exhausted. She recognized when her body craved movement and when it needed rest. Most importantly, she began to trust that these signals were valid rather than problems to be solved.
Setting a Different Example for the Next Generation
As Kaszuba developed this new relationship with her body, she became acutely aware of the example she was setting for her three children, particularly her two daughters. She thought about her own mother’s body dysmorphia comments and how those casual remarks had shaped her self-perception. She didn’t want to pass that legacy forward.
“I realized that I was on the verge of putting that same messaging onto my daughters,” Kaszuba said. “Because whatever I do or my husband does, and it’s really powerful in the same sex parent, like, whatever my husband does, my son’s going to emulate. Whatever I do, my daughters are going to emulate.”
This awareness led to concrete changes in how Kaszuba spoke about food and bodies around her children. She stopped making negative comments about her weight or appearance. She never discussed dieting or restriction. Instead, she modeled listening to her body and honoring its needs. “I make it a point to be like, Mommy’s tummy feels really full right now, so I’m going to stop eating,” Kaszuba said.
The impact extends beyond individual health. When mothers model trusting their bodies rather than controlling them, they interrupt generational cycles of disordered eating and negative body image. They teach children that bodies deserve respect and care rather than punishment and restriction. They demonstrate that wellness comes from internal wisdom rather than external rules.
Creating Sustainable Systems Beyond Quick Fixes
As an integrative nutrition health coach, Kaszuba now helps other women develop this same body trust. The work often involves undoing years of conditioning, a process that requires patience and persistence. “We are unwinding years of conditioning here,” she tells clients who grow frustrated when results don’t appear immediately.
The approach stands in stark contrast to the wellness industry’s typical promises of rapid transformation. Instead of selling solutions, Kaszuba teaches women to build personalized systems that work for their unique bodies and lives. This means paying attention to which foods provide sustained energy versus which cause bloating and fatigue. It means noticing whether grilled chicken and broccoli or a hamburger and fries better supports the demands of a 3 p.m. meeting. It means recognizing that these answers will differ from person to person.
“The biggest problem with the wellness industry right now is there’s always this conversation of I can sell you something that’s going to fix your problem right now,” Kaszuba said. “But the problem is we’re not actually teaching people how to create a system that works for them because it’s not one size fits all.”
This individualized approach acknowledges the complexity of food in our lives. Food isn’t just fuel. It’s how we show love, build community, and celebrate milestones. Any sustainable wellness practice must account for these multiple dimensions rather than reducing eating to a simple equation of calories in and calories out.
Even emerging weight loss medications like GLP-1s, which Kaszuba acknowledges can be effective tools, work best when combined with habit changes rather than serving as standalone solutions. The medications might quiet food noise or reduce cravings, but without learning to listen to your body and build sustainable practices, long-term success remains elusive.
Trusting the Whispers
Kaszuba’s journey from obsessive control to embodied trust illustrates a fundamental truth: your body has wisdom that rules and restrictions cannot access. The shift requires creating quiet spaces where you can hear your body’s whispers rather than drowning them out with external noise about what you should do, should eat, or should weigh.
This doesn’t mean abandoning structure or ignoring health. It means recognizing that true wellness emerges from partnership with your body rather than domination over it. It means accepting that your needs will change and that flexibility serves you better than rigid adherence to predetermined rules. It means understanding that the example you set, especially for the next generation, matters more than any number on a scale.
The work takes time. It requires patience with yourself as you unwind years of conditioning. But the payoff extends far beyond physical health. When you learn to trust your body, everything shifts. Your energy improves. Your relationship with food becomes less fraught. You stop wasting mental space on constant self-surveillance. You model a different possibility for your children. You discover that wellness isn’t something you force but something you cultivate through listening, respect, and trust.
“Everything in your world feels better when you feel good in your body,” Kaszuba said. And feeling good in your body starts with learning to trust it.
This article was inspired by an interview with Lindsey Kaszuba and Amy Stone on The Art of Imperfect Adulting podcast. https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/listen https://www.youtube.com/@imperfectadulting
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Diet Culture: Interview Transcript Lindsey Kaszuba with Amy Stone | The Art of Imperfect Adulting | December 2025
Amy Stone [00:00:05]:
Lindsay Kaszuba. Welcome to the art of imperfect adulting. I’m happy you’re here. Are you ready for a fun chat today?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:00:11]:
I am so, so excited to chat with you.
Amy Stone [00:00:14]:
Yay. All right, we start with this. Share with me and the audience what part of the world you call home?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:00:21]:
I am New York City, right in downtown Manhattan. Me and my three kids.
Amy Stone [00:00:28]:
I love that. I grew up in New York City, so. So did you. I did. I grew up on the Upper west side. And when I went back in my 20s with kids, I immediately called my father and was like, how, how, how, how did you raise me and my brother in this city? It’s a, it’s an. It’s a unique experience, but I love it there. All right, very good. Next warmup question. What is one way that you like to honor or recognize things that are deserving of recognition or celebration?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:00:59]:
Yeah, I take a lot of time for self reflection. It’s just kind of built into, like my DNA, I think. And so I really. My favorite new activity is laying in the. We have a. We live in an apartment building. We have a sauna in our building. So my new favorite thing is laying in the sauna and just thinking about my day. The things that have gone well, it’s kind of like my self reflection moment. And it’s amazing. And then anything that’s like, really worth celebrating, we celebrate with our three kids. Like, our anniversary is coming up and we call it our family’s birthday. And so I’m getting a cake and we’re going to sing happy birthday to our family. So we try to involve the kids as much as possible too.
Amy Stone [00:01:37]:
I love that. Happy birthday to you, the family. That’s really. So is it like, is it like a hot sauna or is it a UV sauna?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:01:45]:
It’s a hot sauna.
Amy Stone [00:01:46]:
Oh, I’m like, it’s a hot sauna. Hats off to you. I have like a 20 second limit.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:01:51]:
So I’ve gotten up to like 20 minutes. I’m like, good. It’s the best. Like, toxic release.
Amy Stone [00:01:58]:
Now everybody says that. Everybody says that. Which is why, like, I will definitely. They try it. I get it. And I’m like, okay.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:02:05]:
I’d rather sauna than cold plunge, to be honest.
Amy Stone [00:02:07]:
Yeah, I don’t do that either. I. I will swim in cold water. But the idea of an intentional. And I’ve done for like, I am a hobbyist runner my whole life. So after really, really big workouts, I’ll do an ice bath. Right. But that, like, you know, that has A. Not an intentional. I don’t know. Yes, I look for other people. I do. I do. If it’s your thing, I totally, totally get it. All right. Ice baths. Not actually the topic of the day. You’re going to share with us the story of how you develop the skill of trusting your own body. I guess that relates to ice baths and saunas. Actually, now that I think about it, we’re talking about your physical corporal body. This is something that I actually think is a wonderful topic because I think it’s really helpful. And I’m excited to have this conversation. And I’ve got a lot of questions. I’ve got a lot of questions. I want to start by getting to know the version of you, the young, younger version of you that did not yet trust your body. So when you think back to a younger version of you, maybe a teenager, what was the relationship that you remember then you had with your body?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:03:13]:
Yeah, that’s a great question. It definitely started in teenage years. I grew up in Florida. Actually. I was born and raised in Florida, and then I came to New York City after college.
Amy Stone [00:03:23]:
So we’re like opposites.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:03:25]:
Are you in Florida?
Amy Stone [00:03:26]:
Yes.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:03:27]:
Okay.
Amy Stone [00:03:28]:
I grew up in New York and then made it to what part of Florida?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:03:32]:
Central, like, Orlando area.
Amy Stone [00:03:34]:
Okay, all right. Very good. Sorry, I totally interrupted you. Rude host.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:03:37]:
No, no, that’s okay. That’s amazing. The complete opposite. Yeah. So I grew up there, and I just kind of always had this, like, love and natural curiosity for all things health and wellness. I loved going to the gym. I loved running. Running was like my outlet for stress when I was in high school. It was great. It was amazing. I. My family ate really healthy. Like, I was always conscious and interested in health and wellness. And then as I got kind of older teenager college years, that curiosity and that, you know, yearning for knowledge sort of turned into an obsession with staying thin, staying a certain number on the scale, being fit, very, like, kind of scale obsessed. And that turned into a very obsessive kind of habits around eating. And I was calorie counting. I didn’t need to be doing any of these things, but I thought that’s what I had to do to stay a certain number on the scale or to be fit and thin. And so I was, you know, okay, we have to be in a calorie deficit. I have to do really hard workouts. I have to do strength training. I have to do cardio. Like, you know, all of the. The. The shoulds and the shouldn’ts and all of the kind of subconscious rules. That really all of our generations have been taught up to this point. And so I just like consume those as my own of like, okay, this is what I have to do. And then I had my. And I went through my whole, you know, late teenage years and twenties doing this and kind of would, you know, have moments of time where I would go out a lot and eat a lot and be like, oh, I have to lose weight. And it’d be, you know, let’s lose five pounds. So it was always kind of there in front of me and it was very exhausting.
Amy Stone [00:05:15]:
Yeah, let’s talk a little bit more about that before we jump into the change because this is definitely. I agree with you. It’s a messaging that everybody probably has gotten from the beginning of time in different ways. It’s tricky because since it is so omnipresent and it’s always around, you don’t notice what you’re picking up as these ideas and these concepts are appearing around you and that you’re picking them up as your own. So you come from a family that you say was, was healthy and active and ate good food. What values and messaging do you remember from your family when you were young? Like, so tell us more about what life was like at home. Did you. Was there like food cooked in your kitchen? Was there messaging around fast food? Was there messaging around, like, the value of being thin? Any of those things that came from your family?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:06:03]:
Yeah, yeah. So kind of a little bit of all those things. My grandmother was raised on a farm in the Midwest, and so she was very like, she cooked all the time. We had Sunday dinner over at her house. Like, she was always cooking. So that was kind of instilled in my mom. So like my mom constantly. We had mostly home cooked meals. All of our breakfasts were like, pretty well rounded. You know, there was always a focus on, we needed to have our fruits and our vegetables and our, our proteins and maybe not said in that way, but it was always a pretty nourishing meals kind of cooked home style, like southern style. And so there was always, you know, great food on the table. And there was never kind of this conversation specifically around food that this was like good or bad. We had fast food, but we didn’t. It was like a treat. We didn’t have it often. We, you know, would go to McDonald’s and be excited to get our little happy meals with like the little beanie Baby toys.
Amy Stone [00:07:01]:
Yes.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:07:02]:
But that was not, that was like a very rare occasion. My mom would like, freeze the hamburgers. We would just Go get the toys.
Amy Stone [00:07:09]:
That is the whole thing. That is the whole thing, really.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:07:13]:
The toy kid, you’re like, I just want the toy. I don’t care about the French fries. So, you know, it was. That was always there that said, my. My mom have. Has always had a weight complex. Like, she has always kind of had, I think, what is maybe body dysmorphia. Like, she looks in the mirror and sees something totally different than everyone else does. And I mean, I remember her, you know, looking in the mirror when I was young, just being like, oh, my God, I’m so fat. Like, okay, a little roll. And she was never overweight. It was just, you know, I’m not fit enough. I have a little extra belly fat, like, all of these things. And so, like. And obviously I didn’t realize it at the time, but that was definitely, like, seeping into my subconscious of just like, okay, got it. Like, need to be, like, you need to be thin to show up in the world as I need to be showing up to be, like, worthy. And so, you know, what took me many, many, many, many years to discover that. And. And I think there was a lot of other things too. Just magazines at the time. Like, social media wasn’t a thing when I was growing up, so, like, that didn’t exist. The. The. Yeah, that’s a different topic.
Amy Stone [00:08:25]:
But that’s the magazines I was. Yeah. Do you remember. Yeah. Do you remember who you were looking at in media and pop culture, like, around, like, what is beauty and what is body size? Do you remember who any of, like, any of your, like, sort of fan things as a teenager from magazine or stuff like that? What were some of the people who were iconic and emblematic of, you know, who you admired as a kid?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:08:50]:
Yeah, I mean, the. I’ve always been obsessed with fashion, and so I’ve followed Vogue for a very long time. Kate Moss. Kate Moss was like in the 80s and 90s was, you know, not a healthy Kate Moss. And then I loved, like, I was in the era of, like, pop stars like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, and that was my phase of life. And so them really, like, that was kind of the standard of beauty at the time. And then it was just, you know, the people that I had in school and what they were dressing like and what they were eating, what they were talking about. And obviously that that kind of shifted more towards weight as we kind of went further in high school, senior year and then into college. Sorry.
Amy Stone [00:09:35]:
Yeah, so you said that you did not. You were. Did not actually have A need that you can see now to do the calorie counting and the obsession that you were doing. Are you a person that was engaging in calorie restriction and do you remember or going on a diet, to use the like the lingo. Do you remember, like kind of how old you were the first time you were like, all right. The, the. The tool that I need to do here is to make myself smaller by controlling my food intake.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:10:05]:
I think the diets really started in college.
Amy Stone [00:10:08]:
Okay.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:10:09]:
Running was kind of my thing in high school. I was like, okay, let’s go for an extra run. Like, I ate too many chips last night. Like, let’s run more. But that still was kind of like feeling good for me then. And then really, like, it was college where I started experimenting with diets and cleanses and detoxes and intermittent fasting. And I definitely calorie counted. I mean, at one point I was trying to eat like thousand calories, which now I’m like, I was literally malnourishing myself. And there was just all these things. I remember once, and this was even later in my 20s when I lived in New York, I did a juice cleanse for two weeks and I messed up my stomach so bad. Like I had like burned holes in my stomach essentially because of all of the acid. And I was not getting real nutrients. Like I was juicing just fruit.
Amy Stone [00:10:56]:
And that’s not to say like there are people, somebody you do not need to. People who are listening. There are ways to get balance nutrition through a liquid diet. So people do not need to write it 100%.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:11:06]:
I was not doing it in the right way.
Amy Stone [00:11:09]:
So. Yeah, right. So that’s. And I think that. And also in nod to the people who hear the thing about a thousand calories, you know, that was in the 80s and before that was a, like a very mainstream respected strategy. And so that was the idea. And that’s why these things can become. And I’m not educated or in a position to be the expert. Expert on this, but that’s why these things are so hard to detect and are the messaging that we’re telling ourselves. We were. We use the word subconscious, which really is just to talk about. Right. Like, we’re not aware of the role that these ideas are playing in our mind. Even if you have a terrible relationship with the adults in your family when you’re a kid, that is your example of what it is to be a human being. And so when we see them do things that just normal. We don’t know anything else. That’s what we take into our minds. And I would love to say there’s this huge thing. We live in an amazing time about breaking generational impacts and all of these things. I would love to say that people are getting a different message growing up today. I hope they are. Things have shifted. But at the same time, celebrities are still beautiful human beings. People who are put on a public stage generally still have the same style of body, which is not huge. Not huge. So I can’t. I wouldn’t say that the messaging is not out there any less. You know, and there’s. There’s layers of it. Um, the body size discussion very quickly turns into the aging discussion as you age up. It’s a really interesting thing to look through. So anyway, those things to bring everybody all at the same page. I want to say thank you for being honest and talking about those things with me, because there is definitely somebody out there that’s listening, that’s thinking, no, but that’s healthy. Like, I’m supposed to do that. Because there’s truth in some of these things, right? There’s truth in saying that there’s nothing actually wrong with wanting to change the size of your body and be healthier. There’s nothing actually false about the idea saying that if you put yourself into a calorie deficit, it’s going to impact, you know, things. Those things are not on their face, wrong or problematic all of the time. And that makes it very confusing.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:13:22]:
Yeah, it’s a very. Wellness is. And I mean, this is. Every single woman that comes to me is overwhelmed with wellness right now. And because it’s just. It’s exactly like there is research to both sides of everything, a hundred percent that this is good and this is bad. And if we followed all of the research that we saw, we would literally eat nothing. Like, our plates would be empty. There would not be one thing that we could put on it.
Amy Stone [00:13:46]:
Not one single thing. Not one single thing. There are people who rail against, right? There are people who rail against bananas. And I’m just like, you know what? Introduce me to the man or woman who has, like, overdone it on bananas, and I’ll have this conversation correct.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:13:59]:
You know, it’s one day eggs are good and eggs are bad, and then the next day it’s too much protein is good and too much protein. And so it’s like.
Amy Stone [00:14:06]:
And who can figure out what kind of salmon we’re supposed to be eating? Honestly, I’ve given up. I don’t know.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:14:10]:
Is it wild? Cause it farmed?
Amy Stone [00:14:12]:
I don’t know, I don’t know. I’m just like. I’m like, I don’t know. Is it wild? Is it frozen? What are we supposed to do here? What’s the problem? So I agree with all of that, and I think that. And I think that it’s a reasonable conversation and lens to where we’re going through this. Jumping forward in time. So you go to college. Did you have that experience in college where you gained weight your first year, or did that not happen to you? Like, what triggered.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:14:35]:
Really? Not really. Like, a little, like, a few pounds here and there, but, like, not. I didn’t have, like, the freshman.
Amy Stone [00:14:42]:
Freshman 15.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:14:43]:
Like, I was extremely aware and very. Like, I would beat myself up if I went out and had too many margaritas and, like, too many chips and guac. Like, I would crush myself at the gym the next day. And that is most definitely not the right way of doing it. But I was extremely aware of gaining weight and was like, this cannot happen to me.
Amy Stone [00:15:05]:
Okay, so that’s the concept of, like, treating food as something that you have to earn and exercise is a penalty. Right? Do you have a concept? Any concept at all? What were you afraid of? Like, if you had gotten bigger, what was the. What was the boogeyman in the closet for? Like, why this had to be avoided?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:15:25]:
Yeah, that’s a great question. No one’s ever asked me that question. I think it was just the fear of, like, not being worthy. There was such an emphasis on thin as n. And, like, to be thin. And there’s still. Honestly, like, there’s still a conversation around that that needs to be had. It’s like, that never has gone away. It’s gotten a little better, but, like, it’s never gone away. Is. I think it was just that it was like, well, I have to be thin or, like, no one will want me. Like, no one. I won’t be good enough for, like, a boyfriend or my friends or, like, I won’t feel good. And, you know, so, like, it’s. It got to that point. I remember one time when I was here, so I was like, in my later 20s. I had gained, like, a few pounds, and I was, like, taking obsessive pictures of my body, and I was like, okay, I have to go on this, like, crazy. I did this crazy workout plan. I, like, restricted my calories. I, like, did all of these things. And, yeah, it worked. But, like, I felt horrible. I was exhausted. I was stressed. Like, my now knowing, like, my cortisol was definitely through the roof. I didn’t Feel good, like at all. And so it was just, I mean, it was exhausting. It’s, you know, I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to live my life being exhausting and restrictive and.
Amy Stone [00:16:39]:
Well, even that, there’s that, that slogan that goes around and it’s still around, which is that nothing, I’m gonna get it wrong, but nothing feels as good as skinny feels. That’s not exactly how it is. But there’s like that mantra which is that, like, if you’re skinny, you will feel better that it’s worth the inconvenience and the distress of. Not that it’s worth it. And that can be a really, that can kind of be a scary message. I, like, I, you know, there’s a fine line between health and over and compulsive patterns. Yeah.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:17:14]:
And I know a lot of really thin, like, naturally thin women that are not healthy.
Amy Stone [00:17:19]:
No.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:17:19]:
And like, you know, so it doesn’t equate. It certainly does not equate to being healthy. And like what your inside world is looking like, it just doesn’t.
Amy Stone [00:17:29]:
Right. No, that’s. I mean, I think we all know that from the common sense, like just in our personal universes of the people we know. We know the person who can eat, you know, whatever they want and just not ever gain any weight doesn’t, you know, and, and even, oh, I’ll take it out of the diet perspective. And like, we know the person who like, never brushes their teeth and never has any trouble with the dentist. And then there’s another person who has like a 12 step routine three times a day and is like constant dealing with complications at the dentist. It’s like, it’s not just as connected sometimes as we wish it was. And so there’s that. Okay, so jumping forward in time, you make it through college, you’ve established these patterns that are working for you. And they don’t feel, I’m gonna, these are my words, not yours. But at this point, they don’t actually feel problematic, I don’t think.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:18:16]:
Correct.
Amy Stone [00:18:17]:
Okay, so this is just your life. You’re just doing that. You jump forward in time. You’re now ready to start a family. I will say from my own personal experience that growing small human beings changes how you feel about your body. It’s a very strange, it’s a very strange experience from start to finish. But how did you feel about your body during pregnancy?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:18:37]:
Yeah, that’s a great question. So I have three, three girls actually, and the, each experience was extremely different. So with my First I was very much still, so I had her when I was 32. And so I guess I got pregnant. I was 31. And I. That was the first time in my life I was like, I can’t control my body like it is. No matter what I do, something new is growing every day. Something was weird, something hurts, something is bigger. Like, and that was really hard. Like, that was really, really hard to. To know that, like, there was nothing really I could do. Like, I keep eating healthy and I could keep. Keep kind of, you know, working out and doing the things that I want her to eventually do. And so I did all the things. I, you know, ate what I wanted to. I was not, like, over eating. I was not restricting. So it was really the first time in my life, the last 10, 15 years, that I was not restricting food. I was eating what I wanted. I didn’t have any weird cravings. So I just kind of ate my meals and my snacks and moved on with my life. And I kept working out. And then I got to. And I was already before I had her very nervous about losing the baby weight because I lose the baby weight and you know, something subconscious talk about subconscious patterns is I was always relatively small. And so everyone had always told me, you’re going to be such a cute, tiny, little pregnant person. Like, you’re going to be so adorable. You’re going to lose the weight so fast. And like, I mean, my whole life people have told me that, and especially when I was pregnant, and that was not the case. I gained 40 pounds and was not tiny. I felt like. I felt so bloated and, like, overwhelmed by my body every day. And I was like, my jaw dropped to the floor because I was like, this is not what people told me what would happen.
Amy Stone [00:20:31]:
Yeah.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:20:32]:
You know, and it was the first time where I was like, okay. This was starting to be the disconnect between what people say and what actually happens. And so I was like, okay, that’s not what happened. I did not lose lose the weight quickly. It took me a whole year to.
Amy Stone [00:20:44]:
Feel, which it just does. Like, it just.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:20:47]:
Your body is just created organs. And a human, like, it’s wild.
Amy Stone [00:20:53]:
It takes nine months to put on the weight and a year to take it off.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:20:56]:
But they are 100%.
Amy Stone [00:20:58]:
It is not imaginary, the pressure to lose the weight. Like, it is like, it is like. I mean, it is in your face. Like, there is actual judgment of people in your life. Like, how fast, you know, what are you doing? How are you doing it? Get back to your clothes.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:21:16]:
Yeah, there’s like a three month grace period until people start being mean and you’re like, excuse me. Yeah, it’s just. It’s pretty wild, actually. It’s pretty wild. But I remember I was sitting on the hospital bed and I was in the middle of giving birth naturally without an epidural, which was not in the plan. I very much wanted an epidural, and that’s just not how it worked out. And I’m looking down and I’m like, I just pushed this baby out of my body with not one ounce of pain medication. And I mean, it took me a while. Like, I’m sort of still in shock over it almost seven years later. And I was just like, whoa. And it was kind of the first moment where I was like starting to understand. It was the very beginning of the journey of starting to understand that my body was extremely capable of. I didn’t do anything. I couldn’t control anything. This baby was coming out and like, my body was pushing it. So it was like, you know, it was kind of the very beginning of the story for me of the journey to this new direction of like, really understanding that your body is so capable of surviving and thriving, to be honest, if you understand what it needs. And, you know, it still took me a little while to get fully to that place, but that was kind of the beginning where I was like, oh, I’ve definitely been taking my body for granted, like, kind of not been treating it great.
Amy Stone [00:22:46]:
Yeah, I think there’s a couple things that come to mind. I mean, first of all, definitely your daughter made a dramatic entrance and she did not read the birth plan that you had written to say.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:22:56]:
I left the hospital and I was like, I had a birth plan.
Amy Stone [00:22:59]:
I wrote it down. Nobody.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:23:01]:
Yeah, this was not it.
Amy Stone [00:23:04]:
And so that leads me to the idea that this was. You had a self concept that you were in control of this. And your identity seems to have been, you know, connected to the amount of space that your body took up in the world. The size, the physical size of your body was connected to how you were defining yourself and the value that you were able to bring right to the world. So that’s a. A complicated. That’s a lot of pressure to put on your body.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:23:34]:
There’s a lot of little things in there.
Amy Stone [00:23:35]:
Yeah, yeah. And then something goes radically against the plan, but it still works out, which is. Becomes a transformative, transformative experience about your mindset because you, like, this is not the way I thought it was going to go. And you know what? It all Worked because this is, you know, because it did. And it doesn’t always like, you know, it doesn’t always work out that way. So let’s say that. But you are lucky that, that everybody’s healthy. Traumatic delivery. Surprise, surprise. Ouchy, ouchy. But everything worked out. Okay. Let’s talk a little. You talk about that as the beginning of this transformation. Thinking back. Okay, so it’s an overwhelming experience. It’s an over natural child with an overwhelming experience. And how was it really like in that moment that you were like, like, wow, I didn’t know my body would be able to do this without me bossing it around or what? Talk more about like that day and how this little kernel of an idea began to form.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:24:35]:
Yeah, that’s a great way of putting it. That it was just the kernel at that point. Like, it was kind of like, oh, my body could just do this. Like, I didn’t have to do anything. And then it was. Then it took some time really to kind of. It took honestly a couple months for me to. I remember I was standing on my bathroom scale. The baby’s like next to me in her little, like, bouncer baby Bjorn. And I’m looking at her and I’m like, that was kind of where I started to realize I had been putting so much pressure on weight and the number on the scale and being really restrictive. And I was very much in that, like, lose the baby weight mindset. And that was kind of where the kernel started turning into like a bigger seed of. There’s something here. I don’t know what it is yet, but, like, there’s something. I got this, like, download that. I was like, okay, I need to start simplifying everything and not being so restrictive and like, starting. Starting to like, really understand what my body needs. And that was honestly, like, terrifying because I had never done that. Like, I was like, I don’t know what this means. Like, how do I do that if I don’t put so much. So much pressure on going to the gym while I go to the gym? Or will I just skip it all the time? Or like, if I don’t put so much pressure on limiting my calories and my carbs? Like, am I just gonna eat pasta every time I go out or, you know? So, like, that was a little scary, but it was kind of like I look at her and I’m like, well, I don’t want her to have to unlearn diet culture. Like, it’s taken me 32 years of my life. Like, so I want her to Grow up knowing that she can trust her body and, like, live in a. In a body in a home that, like, feels really good to her. And so that was kind of like the start. But then I still went on in that first pregnancy, I still put so much emphasis on losing the baby weight. Like, I tried intermittent fasting. I was like, why is this not coming off? Like, I’m breastfeeding. I’m doing all these things. And so it was. The idea had been there, but it still was not, like, fully developed until probably, like, nine months in. I was like, okay, I need to start doing things a little differently. I started shifting my workouts. I started shifting the way I ate. I started eating more plants and just, like, adding more whole foods into my diet. Not that I was eating a ton of processed stuff, but I was like, let’s just experiment here. And so it kind of, you know, it was a longer journey. And then it really clicked when I had my second daughter.
Amy Stone [00:26:58]:
Okay.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:26:59]:
And that was where it sort of. And that also was Covid times. She was born in 2020. And that’s where it was really, like, I was like, okay, I need yoga and pilates. I need to not go to the gym and do strength training and cardio. I need to. I need to slow everything way down. I need to eat more plants. I need to eat less meat. Like, I had all of these things, I was starting to realize, and when I did those, I felt so great. It was my fastest recovery postpartum. I had the most energy. I. Everything just felt so much better. And it wasn’t restrictive, and it was just amazing. That’s really where it, like, all of the. The little seeds and kind of the little spurts had just planted themselves.
Amy Stone [00:27:41]:
So let’s back up to the comm to look at your community and who is around you after your daughter, your first daughter, was born, because Covid is a time of isolation, so that would be, like, a little bit different. But did you have, like, when. Did you have, like, a group of mom friends who were all sort of trying to, like, get back into their clothes at the same time? Like, was. Were you surrounded by people who were reinforcing the idea directly that it’s like, this is what we all do now, now?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:28:08]:
Not really. We were kind of one of the early ones to have kids out of our friend group. So it was kind of more like, I want to get back in shape so I can go hang out with my friends who are not moms.
Amy Stone [00:28:19]:
So it’s like, they didn’t gain 40 pounds. And so. Okay, I want to be.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:28:24]:
We had, like, one or two friends that had had babies, and then, like, I did have some people around me that had babies at the same time. And we were just. I don’t know. It didn’t. There was never, like, a conversation around weight. Felt like it was more like an internal pressure that I was kind of putting on myself. And there wasn’t. Yeah, there was never really, like. I don’t know. Yeah, there wasn’t, like, direct conversations about it.
Amy Stone [00:28:51]:
All right, very cool. Very good. All right, so this kernel begins to grow, and you shared with us some of the things that you were doing. You were changing the intentional foods you were eating. Um, you shifted the type of workout you were doing. But those are all as a result of this mindset shift, which. Let’s talk about where. What kind of shifts you made. It sounds like you say that you made a shift, that you were in a curiosity phase. You were experimenting with what worked, and then sort of the. The. The. It’s intuition and trusting your body. Were you aware of this at this time, that you were listening to what felt good to you or talk more about what was the. The shift you were making?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:29:32]:
Yeah, the. The shift kind of. There was definitely no, like, oh, I’m going to be intuitive and, like, just listen to my body. It just kind of was like a natural thing that had. From the. Where I had gone from to where I was, I was like, I feel like I need something, but it’s not like what these people are telling me. And so it was kind of more like, okay, let’s just feel what I need. And I’ve always been pretty trial and error, and I don’t know if you’re into human design, but, like, that’s. Some of my profile lines is. I’m very trial and error. So, like, I’ve always naturally gravitated towards trying a bunch of things and seeing what sticks and feels good. And so that’s kind of what I was doing. It was like an experimental phase where I was like, okay, I’ve always done cardio and, like, run for my cardio. I’ve always done strength training. I’ve done, like, you know, Barry’s classes and spinning, even though I never really liked spinning the leaderboard, like, no, thank you do. And. But I always did it because I was like, that’s what I thought I had to do. And then this kind of phase of life, I was like, you know what? I. I’ve been hearing about this Pilates thing. Like, let me try this. And So I didn’t even go to a class. I did go to classes, but I did a lot of it just on my mat at home.
Amy Stone [00:30:44]:
Yeah.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:30:45]:
And I scaled back from working out 45 minutes to an hour at the gym to like 15, 20 minutes on my mat. And once I was doing that really consistently, it like changed the way that I felt. Felt completely. It just, it started allowing me to feel my body more. It started allowing me to slow down, which helped my cortisol levels, my stress.
Amy Stone [00:31:06]:
Yeah.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:31:06]:
It really allowed me to start saying, oh, like slowing down actually feels really good for me right now in this phase of life. Like, let’s keep going. And I still to this day, that’s what I do for my workout. I’ve started adding back in strength training in a couple days. But that pilates yoga is like my jam. That’s my sweet spot. I started meditating every day because I was like, I think I need to like get all of these other thoughts out and like listen to myself. That was honestly like the game changer because I think now, and this is something I talk about all the time now is we need quiet to hear what our body is saying. And we are in a very noisy world. And like just, you know, the whole conversation we’ve had already is like all of the information and the noise and then you factor in social media on top of that, that it’s just a lot. And so if we don’t create a space around ourselves, we can’t hear like what we need. And so that even, you know, to this day is like a, a daily practice for me. It’s like a non negotiable. But it was then in that phase of life in 2020 where I was like, this is really important for me to do so that I can hear myself and so that I can focus on what I actually need. So it was kind of like, what do I need right now? But without being like, like body intuitive and like putting the words to it, it was, you know, the concept without the words.
Amy Stone [00:32:23]:
So when you tell a story of standing on the scale with an infant in a bouncy seat next to you, but then realizing that you were going to be her example of behavior and messaging, talk a little bit more about that like realization that she was going to learn from you and then you had two more girls that they were going to learn from you by watching how you move through the world. Like how did, how did that feel to make that aware, awareness and connection?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:32:49]:
Yeah, I mean, I think it’s pretty spectacular to do and now that they’re, they’re older and I’ve kind of seen them like a more experienced parent, they do what you do, not what you say you’re gonna do.
Amy Stone [00:33:03]:
So it’s really like, that is like a colloquialism of parenting. It’s like your kids are gonna do what you do.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:33:09]:
You tell them what to do all day long. They’re not gonna do it right. But it was really kind of. And so I very, very early on, like when she was an infant, I realized, okay, she, her inner dialogue is going to be how I speak to myself. And so, and I don’t know where that came from. I just kind of had this, like, thought one day and I was like, oh, like this. It’s really important for me to like, never talk about my weight or like, pinch my belly fat or look at myself and be like, oh, my God, I need to lose weight. I have never once looked at myself in the mirror and been like, oh, this is not good enough. Like, and so, you know, I do my morning workout every single morning, Mom. My Pilates or my yoga. I still do it to this day. I do it right after I get out of bed. And all three kids are usually climbing on me. And I’m like, it is one of the most important things to me for them to see me doing these things that is taking care of me, not just taking care of them or not like beating myself down. And we, we constantly talk about how it’s important to have confidence and feel really good in your body and listen to what your, your belly needs. I say, listen to what your belly needs. Like, do you need that extra cupcake or are you full?
Amy Stone [00:34:18]:
You might.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:34:19]:
And listen, sometimes you might.
Amy Stone [00:34:22]:
You might. Cupcakes are delicious, especially at birthday parties.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:34:28]:
It’s true, it’s true. It’s funny. My six, she’s almost seven year old. She is, she’s pretty tapped in. Like, she will eat a cupcake and she’ll stop. She’s like, the icing’s too much. I’m like, okay, stop. My four year old’s like, can I have another one?
Amy Stone [00:34:41]:
Yeah. No, like, you know, it’s. Yeah, it’s, it’s. There you go. All right, so all of this is fantastically interesting. All right, the one last question before we begin to wrap this up in 2025. I don’t think any conversation about body size or weight loss or changing, how we see our body can be complete without, like, talking about the impact of the new medicine that are out the GLP1s the transformative medications, like historically, any kind of medical intervention has just been a super polarizing and controversial topic in the health world and the wellness space. And this is no different. It’s just people have all different kind of opinions. What personal opinions or thoughts do you have just generally speaking about these medicines, the GLP ones, and the impact they have on people?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:35:29]:
Great question, great question. I actually just wrote an article about this. I, you know, it’s in my opinion they work. They work. If you need them medically and if you are taking them in a form to just lose weight, then it’s just another diet. That’s it. That’s like the simplest way to boil it down, I think, is injections like GLP1, there’s a million different brands are another form of a diet. They work and you will lose weight while you’re taking them. But the moment that you get off them, if you haven’t changed your habits, what do you think is going to happen? All that weight is going to come right back because you haven’t changed anything.
Amy Stone [00:36:12]:
Yeah.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:36:12]:
It only changes your, your inner world for a short period of time. And if you get off of it, it’s like any other diet, you will gain the weight back, you’ll be frustrated again, and then we start to feel like it’s our fault instead of the approach that we’re taking. And so I think it’s so much more important to look at it in like a holistic view. Is one, do you actually need to lose weight or is it this, like, pinch a tiny roll of belly fat, like, kind of constantly want to lose weight? Because I know a lot of people that are just like, always want to lose 10 pounds no matter what they weigh. And so is it that? And I think, you know, really understanding. I was just having this conversation with a friend. She was like, every single person I talk to left and right is on some form.
Amy Stone [00:36:54]:
I know everybody’s taking it.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:36:56]:
Everyone. And even the people that say they’re not taking it, a lot of them are taking it.
Amy Stone [00:37:00]:
And that’s the most controversial thing this week is like, if you, like, admit, like people who admit that they take totally flamed. And I’m like, that’s so weird to flame people for taking it because I don’t even know if I know anybody who’s not taking it. It’s like, yeah, it’s like you go.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:37:14]:
To dinner, just admit it.
Amy Stone [00:37:15]:
You go to dinner these days and people are like, like, I’m going to have, you know, one lima bean for dinner. And it’s like what?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:37:20]:
Right, right. Thinking about it in that way is like, yes, it, it, it limits your hunger cues. Right? But then you’re malnourishing yourself. It’s just another diet. If you’re doing it for just weight loss and, and in a way that you don’t medically need weight loss and you know, for the people that are diabetic or obese, that, that truly need it, it’s great. But at the same time you need to adjust your actual habits and how you’re thinking about food, your relationship with food. Because if you don’t adjust that, then when the moment you come up, then you’re going to be on nozempic injections for the rest of your life.
Amy Stone [00:37:54]:
Right?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:37:54]:
Are we really doing that?
Amy Stone [00:37:56]:
I mean, and the thing is like, for me this is just my opinion. That is the decision that people need to make. Because like you’re saying it’s like medicine like anything else. And there’s nothing wrong with taking, there’s nothing value based in my mind about taking a medication for the rest of your life. So people take heart rate, high blood pressure medication for their whole life. If you’re diabetic, you are going to be taking diabetic medication for the rest of your life. So like, but that is, that’s the decision, right? Like what are you doing? Are you doing this as a short term intervention? Are you doing this as a law? Is it a lifelong change? You know, I think that that is the decision and it’s where that weighs in for me. And these drugs I think are going to change, which I’m not a doctor or a pharmacist. So in 12 months, what we’ll be talking about something totally different, I’m sure. But currently they’re very expensive. And so that’s one of the conversations. Like it’s like if you are going to take this for the rest of your life, that’s a financial impact. Again, neither good nor bad. Like people pay for gym memberships and car payments and prescriptions and all of those things. But it’s just really, really, really. But the thing that is so funny about this is that they, I mean nobody can say at this point like that they don’t work, I don’t think, although I guess there is. Research shows there is a small percentage of people that it does not work for at all.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:39:13]:
There’s a lot, there can be a lot of side, like the side effects are so insane. Are we dealing this with this for the rest of your life? Honestly, it’s a quick Fix. And I think if. If you’re doing it at the same time as adjusting your habits and understanding why you’re emotionally eating or understanding why you want these foods or if you’re not getting enough food or why you don’t want to work out or, like, understanding more about the habits that you’re building, I think that’s where they can work together. They can work together if you adjust your habits at the same time. Because if you don’t and you’re just doing it for a quick fix, like, it’s just gonna come back. And everyone knows when you get off a diet, you usually gain more weight because your body’s like, help. Like, we’ve been starving this whole time. Now it’s time to eat. And so it just kind of works in the opposite direction that you want it to if you’re not doing it in the right way.
Amy Stone [00:40:06]:
One of the. So I. One of the things I found so interesting these last couple years while people are taking them is how this is this weird thing where mass culture and this group of people reporting who are going in and taking all of these medicines are impacting, like, really research. So the whole idea that because it removes the food noise for people who have been thinking about it, it sounds like you had a chatter track in your mind that was like, this is the right way for me to be fit. This is the right way for me to be thin. Food noise is this idea that people who are. There’s constantly thinking about food and these drugs make that go away. And what has been interesting for me as an outsider is that the medical industry complex had been just denying that for the last hundred years. And then all of a sudden, there’s this medicine that comes out and it makes it disappear. And now we’re acknowledging it’s like, oh, my gosh, that is a thing. Maybe we should help these people and meet them where they actually are. And it’s been interesting as an outsider to watch because it really has transformed the discussion in so many ways about the actual challenges that people in doing this and making it stick in another way.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:41:20]:
Yeah, yeah, I know. I think it’s. It’s an interesting conversation, but I think at the end of the day, it’s. It’s a band aid. And if you’re not fixing the.
Amy Stone [00:41:32]:
The.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:41:33]:
I don’t know, scratch underneath.
Amy Stone [00:41:35]:
Yeah.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:41:36]:
Then it just is gonna kind of grow and get worse. And it’s just, you know, I think that really starts. Starts with trying to understand what you need. And in order to do that, we have to kind of create this, like, pocket of silence around ourselves so that we can hear. Because a lot of time, our body just speaks to us in whispers. And, like, I have this conversation constantly with my clients is the. The idea of, like, constantly thinking about food, constantly overwhelmed with calories, constantly needing to. You know, I have a lot of clients that are in menopause or, like, post menopause, and they’re like, I cannot lose this extra 10 pounds that I gained during menopause. Like, what do I do? And it’s funny, working with women that are postmenopause. You know, you’re. They’re very stuck in doing things a certain way. And when you can shift it. I have this. This client I’ve been working with for a couple months, and at first she was like, lindsay, I have no clue what my body needs. I have no clue what habits give me energy and which do not. I have no idea. And I was like, okay, okay, I got a process for this. Like, come along with me. Let’s do it. And the first month, she was so frustrated. She was like, it’s not working. It’s not working. I’m like, girlfriend, it’s been 30 days. Like, we are unwinding years of conditioning here, and it’s been 30 days. I promise. Just stick with it. So we ditched the scale. I was like, no more scale. It’s just stressing you out. You’re doing it too much. Every single day is not. We don’t need to do that. And yesterday she gave me an update, and she was like, like, I’m starting. It’s been two months now. And she was like, I’m starting to feel a shift. I know what foods and what beverages I’m consuming that, like, give me energy and which ones don’t and which ones give me bloating and gas. And I’m like, incredible. Because when we can start, like, understanding little things like that, we can start to say, oh, well, having this grilled chicken and broccoli for lunch is not making me gassy. But if I have this hamburger and French fries, I feel really gassy, and I’m exhausted, so I can’t go to my 3pm meeting because I feel like I need a nap or an hour, another coffee. And it’s like, when you start shifting those things, your whole world kind of opens up, and it starts shifting the inner narrative, and you start seeing more. You have more awareness over the things that you’re doing. And I think that conversation needs. And honestly, I think that’s the biggest problem. With the wellness industry right now is, is there’s this always this conversation of I can sell you something that’s going to fix your problem right now. But the problem is we’re not actually teaching people how to create a system that works for them because it’s not one size fits all.
Amy Stone [00:44:05]:
No.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:44:05]:
You don’t know how to adapt it to ourselves and our lifestyle. Like it’s not gonna work.
Amy Stone [00:44:10]:
Yeah, no, I think that there’s. And even when we know that, you know, food becomes a very complex thing and that that lends to why it becomes more and more important that you’re driving your own ship and making your own decisions. Because food is very connected to how we designate community and how we show love and you know, how we, you know, all those things and the end of the day we have to eat. It’s a requirement for staying alive. So that makes it a complex discussion. All right, so that’s very cool. Okay, so let’s bring this all together. In a minute we’re going to do the final fun questions and that’ll be super fun. Tell people you’ve talked a little bit about how you’re supporting people. Tell people directly what it is that you do. Throw out like a website or how you want people to connect with you after they hear and watch this episode. And then I’ve got an offer from you for the audience. Audience. So let’s do that. Amazing. Yes.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:45:03]:
I would love to connect more with your audience. So my. I’m Lindsay Kaszuba, Integrative Nutrition health coach. I just say health coach because that’s kind of a mouthful and I work with women both one on one. I have private clients, but I also have a group program. It’s a course in community called Health Club Collective. And in there we really focus on helping you unlock your healthiest weight yet and trusting your body far beyond on the scale because it’s kind of both. It can’t be one or the other. It’s really. They need to go hand in hand for it to be long term and sustainable and really realistic. And so that’s how we help people in there. It’s a year long group program and it’s incredible. It’s so fun. And yeah, Lindsay, kazubahealth.com is my website and I hang out on Instagram a lot. It’s KaszubaHealth.
Amy Stone [00:45:50]:
That’s a deb. You, your last name is distinct and unique and so that gives you an advantage in locking down.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:45:57]:
Hard to pronounce.
Amy Stone [00:45:58]:
But, but, but for locking down the like, unique properties. It’s, like, super good. All right, so you have a special offer for the audience, which is the health club collect. Health club Collective. It’s a hundred dollars off the price, which is normally $997. So in all the show notes, wherever you’re listening or watching this episode, you’ll find a link and a checkout code to redeem that and more information about Lindsay. I always say this in every episode. The easiest way to get these links, you guys, is to be a subscriber to the art of imperfect adulting email community. Because then I send a zap them right into your email box, and you can just click on the link and take advantage of all the offers, Lindsay’s and others. Lindsay, thank you so much for that generous offer. It was really, really nice. Are you ready for the final three questions? Rapid fire.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:46:43]:
Just for fun, let’s do it. I love rapid fire.
Amy Stone [00:46:46]:
All right. How do you feel about roller coasters? Love them, hate them, or used to love them as a kid but not interested today or something else.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:46:56]:
Love them. But there’s certain one. I can’t do the spinny ones. They’re not the same on my stomach anymore. That is the tilta whirl ones. I’m like, no, thank you.
Amy Stone [00:47:07]:
I had a profound moment on the spill. You. You are from the Orlando area. The teacups. The teacups with young children teacups.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:47:13]:
Those will knock me out thinking, wow.
Amy Stone [00:47:16]:
This used to be so much fun. And I literally think I might die, you know?
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:47:20]:
Know. Yeah, not no longer fun.
Amy Stone [00:47:23]:
Super funny. All right. Today you were a guest on my show. Share with us another podcast or some other streaming show on TV or wherever you want that you enjoy and you recommend for others.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:47:33]:
Oh, I. I don’t. I’m very into human design these days, so I really love the Align podcast with Jenna Zoe.
Amy Stone [00:47:42]:
All right, very cool. So last week, and we’re recording this in the beginning of September, last week, there was a massive Powerball lottery. I don’t know if you were aware of or not. The jackpot prize was an enormous $1.8 billion. It was a fun conversation to be having. If you won just even $1 billion, what is the first thing that you would buy? The only rule is it has to be for you. It has to be for yourself.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:48:05]:
Oh, amazing. That’s really funny. Because my husband, I had this conversation.
Amy Stone [00:48:08]:
I think everybody had it. I think everyone had it.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:48:11]:
Because you’re like, we have to be prepared. Honestly, I. He was. He was like, I put a million dollars into living. LINDSAY Kaszuba Health And I was like, yeah, I think I would, too. I would hire a marketing expert to help me run Lindsay Kazoo Health. Because, honestly, I’m so passionate about helping women find their healthiest weight. Because it just everything in your world feels better when you feel good in your body. And it’s so it’s so important for our kids and our family. And everyone around us can, like, feel the impact of you taking care of yourself and prioritizing yourself. And I think it’s so important for not only ourselves, but also our kids and future generations. So I put it into my business.
Amy Stone [00:48:56]:
You’d invest in your business? And that is a fantastic answer. All right.
Lindsey Kaszuba [00:49:01]:
That is it.
Amy Stone [00:49:01]:
Lindsay Kaszuba, thank you so much for being a wonderful guest today on the show.